Not losing weight

pipscot

smitchy73 wrote: »

Thanks Annisele much appreciated. I may have to look out the scales to weigh things, but to be brutally honest the only things I eat in a normal day, breakfast consists of a coffee drank on the way to work at 6am, have an apple mid morning(9ish) then for lunch have a cupasoup(95cals) plus another apple(sometimes two) and a banana or two, this is washed down with about a litre of water over and hour or two. No snacks in the afternoon, and then I'll have a normal dinner, but this could be pasta, or pork steaks potatoes and veg, maybe once a fortnight have fish and chips(oven) and I load the plate with vegetables too(also have cut down from having two bits of fish to just one.
I've totally cut out fizzy drinks to maybe once a week.
The worst bit of the diary will be the dinner I tried it tonight and it worked out at about 850 calories which was chicken pieces, chow mein sauce(from a jar) along with an express rice and a handful of oven chips, add this to two apples, two bananas, a litre of water at lunch three cups of coffee all day, doesn't add up to a lot. But we'll see how it goes over a week or two.

There is quite a lot of sugar and calories in bananas - it's great to increase your fruit/veg intake but maybe cut bananas down to 3 or 4 a week and increase your intake of other fruit that contains more water.

It also doesn't sound like you're eating a lot of protein. Include some protein with both breakfast and lunch and you may find you feel fuller for longer.

I would go back to your GP, explain what you've done already to try to lose weight and ask for a referral to a dietitian. If you take a food diary to the dietitian they will be able to help you adapt your diet to help you lose weight.

Good luck! :):)

pipscot

willing2learn wrote: »

I just looked at the ingredients of everything i ate and kept my daily saturated fat to under 10g a day - half of the guideline daily amount (which i don't believe after all my research will protect anyone from heart disease, it's still too high - i can give you some book refs if you want but i realise here you are doing it for weight loss whereas i was focussed on the health). Other than that i ate pretty much what i wanted...

Just wanted to point out that the guideline daily amount for saturated fat is a maximum rather than a target. The government are not saying - "eat x amount of saturated fat per day" but "never exceed x amount of saturated fat per day and preferably eat much less than x amount".

You are quite right to reduce your saturated fat intake - there is not much conclusive evidence linking saturated fat intake with obesity BUT there is plenty of evidence linking saturated fat intake with heart disease and cancer.

cyclingyorkie

i'm currently doing slimming world - and have lost 3+stone.

I have never eaten so much in my life! There is so much free food it's unbelievable!

Why not have a look at the thread on here? It's very informative and there are loads of recipes available too and lots of support.....

As part of the Slimming world plan I don't eat bread anymore (my choice - I could have it but I prefer to have porridge for breakfast!)

I'm doing their new plan and as a rule of thumb 1/3rd of each meal has to be veg or fruit - I make sure there is 1/3rd of my plate covered by veg... even if I'm having spag bol or something similar. That leaves 2/3rds of my plate for lean meat, fish, pasta, rice or potatoes.....

hope this helps!

smitchy73

I will be changing the fruit that I buy when I go the weekly shop tomorrow, have already lined up some strawbs, grapes, and my juicy apples. I used to go to Scottish Slimmers but fell out of it due to work commitments, and can't really afford to go now, although I may look at the cost again and where and when classes are now, as I'm now not working as many hours as I once was. I lost weight before with Scot.Slimmers and was well chuffed.
I had a good fill for my breakfast this morning because I was up earlier than normal, I usually get up at 5.30am and leave the house at 6.10am to get to work. ate some of my fruit mid morning instead of keeping it all till lunch, had an extra half litre of water throughout the day too, now thinking of what to have for dinner.

Eric_Pisch

pipscot wrote: »

Just wanted to point out that the guideline daily amount for saturated fat is a maximum rather than a target. The government are not saying - "eat x amount of saturated fat per day" but "never exceed x amount of saturated fat per day and preferably eat much less than x amount".

You are quite right to reduce your saturated fat intake - there is not much conclusive evidence linking saturated fat intake with obesity BUT there is plenty of evidence linking saturated fat intake with heart disease and cancer.

except the governments figures are utter tosh based on a lie started by ansel keys, there is no scientific evidence to support not eating sat fat

eating sat fat will not clog your arteries, small dense LDL clogs your arteries and to get small dense LDL you need a high carb diet

and red meat does not give you cancer either, another flawed and corrupted bit of research

smitchy73

Well thought I'd give you an update, Saturday morning is my weigh time/day, and guess what this week I've lost four lbs, this is the first time in about 8 weeks of cutting down I've lost anything. Feel great, something at last!
Just need to keep it up.(the diet that is!)

maman

smitchy73 wrote: »

Well thought I'd give you an update, Saturday morning is my weigh time/day, and guess what this week I've lost four lbs, this is the first time in about 8 weeks of cutting down I've lost anything. Feel great, something at last!
Just need to keep it up.(the diet that is!)

Just read your thread and thought I'd drop by to congratulate you on your weightloss:T You have received lots of specific advice (some contradictory) and taken it all in good part. Well done on doing something about it. I'm not going to affer any advice of my own about 'how to' but unless you're determined to go it alone I would go back to your doctor (the nice one if you can choose) and ask for advice. They might even refer you to a club on prescription.

pipscot

Eric_Pisch wrote: »

except the governments figures are utter tosh based on a lie started by ansel keys, there is no scientific evidence to support not eating sat fat

eating sat fat will not clog your arteries, small dense LDL clogs your arteries and to get small dense LDL you need a high carb diet

and red meat does not give you cancer either, another flawed and corrupted bit of research

There is valid and robust scientific evidence linking saturated fat intake with coronary heart disease.
http://www2.cochrane.org/reviews/en/ab002137.html

There are clear correlations found in many studies between saturated fat intake and high LDL serum cholesterol levels.

This is often misinterpreted to mean that "low fat" is healthy. There is no evidence that a "low fat" diet is good either for reducing obesity or for reducing coronary heart disease. Approx a third of calories should come from fats - preferably unsaturated and including essential fatty acids such as omega 3.

UK dietary recommendations are not based on research carried out by Ancel Keys but on many different scientific studies. Some 92 studies into the effects of dietary fat on health were investigated when setting the recommendation for dietary fat in the UK.

Interestingly Ancel Keys actually recommended the Mediterranean diet (not a low fat diet but a low saturated fat diet) which has been shown to have many dietary benefits. His data has been widely misinterpreted (and was incorrectly used to justify some of the low fat hype in the 80s).

The link between saturated fat and cancer is less clear but some studies have shown a link between saturated fat intake and cancers of the breast and bladder. I did not say that red meat causes cancer!

margaretclare

Hello smitchy

You wrote originally that you don't have breakfast but you have an active job. This is really baaaad.

I used to do active jobs and I could not cope if I didn't have some breakfast! Nowadays I'm not active, but I do need protein to start the day. That usually means egg in some form or other, but if I was in a situation like before, being really pushed for time, a slice of ham or cheese would be better than running out of the house on just a cup of coffee. You are fasting for much too long, dinner in the evening then hours of sleep, then nothing at all until mid-morning. I think a lot of people do this, which is where the 'snacking' habit has crept in. And who ever decreed that breakfast had to consist of a lot of highly-processed foods such as breakfast cereals and bread? Wouldn't it be better to get up half an hour earlier and make a proper breakfast?

On our way home yesterday we dropped in to see my stepdaughter, DH's daughter. Hadn't seen her since last autumn and we were amazed at the change in her. She's been doing Slimming World and has lost 7 stone. She thought for many years that she couldn't lose weight due to various medical problems, and then she suddenly took the bull by the horns and has done it. She had problems with a knee, her back, you name it, and all those problems are now better because the weight is so much reduced. The GP you went to was probably right, but didn't communicate very well.

I agree with you about KFC. Factory-farmed chicken tastes of absolutely nothing unless it is tarted-up with all the spices etc that KFC use, but it is loaded with fat. We only use organic free-range chicken and it actually tastes like - chicken! Same with McD's and all the others. Children have been successfully brainwashed by all these fast-food giants and you'll have an uphill struggle.

Miley

pipscot wrote: »

This is often misinterpreted to mean that "low fat" is healthy. There is no evidence that a "low fat" diet is good either for reducing obesity or for reducing coronary heart disease.

My low-fat diet must have been a fluke then, I've lost 7 stone in 11 months following it......

Good luck Smitchy