Student Loan 2015 Discussion

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Oldernotwiser wrote: »

link to hansard

Cool, thanks.

NASMA_member

I am concerned that some of the material in this guide is misleading or inaccurate.

One example is
Changing course

If you start a course before 2012, and then change, provided it's to an equivalent (i.e. full-time to full-time or part-time to part-time) degree even at a different university you should be able to continue on the same fee structure, i.e. not move to the new system. Though always double-check with the institution beforehand.

This reads as though if you start a course in 2011 and change to any other course in 2012 you will come under the 2011 regs. This certainly is not the case.
You can transfer from one course to another and retain current system status as long as the transfer is in the same subject and mode of study. If you start a course and then ‘change’ you are not necessarily covered and would be regarded as a new student if you either started a new course from scratch, or transferred to a different subject.

I am also concerned at the amount of old posts in the forum from 2006 changes, is not immediately apparent that these are old posts so will confuse new students and their parents looking for up to date IAG. Please remove these!!

Oldernotwiser

NASMA_member wrote: »

I am concerned that some of the material in this guide is misleading or inaccurate.

One example is
Changing course

If you start a course before 2012, and then change, provided it's to an equivalent (i.e. full-time to full-time or part-time to part-time) degree even at a different university you should be able to continue on the same fee structure, i.e. not move to the new system. Though always double-check with the institution beforehand.

This reads as though if you start a course in 2011 and change to any other course in 2012 you will come under the 2011 regs. This certainly is not the case.
You can transfer from one course to another and retain current system status as long as the transfer is in the same subject and mode of study. If you start a course and then ‘change’ you are not necessarily covered and would be regarded as a new student if you either started a new course from scratch, or transferred to a different subject.

I am also concerned at the amount of old posts in the forum from 2006 changes, is not immediately apparent that these are old posts so will confuse new students and their parents looking for up to date IAG. Please remove these!!

Your last comment is useful but I suggest you post it in the Forum Feedback section.

atypical

This piece may be of interest to people. Snippet below:

"His entire reform programme is based on the theory that market competition between public and private universities will drive up standards and drive down prices, thus increasing value for money to students and taxpayers alike. But this evidence indicates that his theory is mistaken.

If Willetts' hypothesis were true, then the US - with its famous tier of private non-profit universities and its less-celebrated tier of private for-profit universities - would outperform all the world's more-or-less purely public university systems with ease. But instead, the US offers only a fraction of the value for money produced by public university systems in the UK and elsewhere. And it follows that the Minister's hypothesis should be rejected as false, unless he can provide some equally weighty evidence to support it."

Taiko

Thinking there's possibly grounds for a fee raise on that social work post. Let me get home and have a proper read though.

On a skimread, it's higher fees or ineligible completely though.

Taiko

http://www.stockport.ac.uk/courseDetail?courseID=2013&courseTitle=Social Work : B.A. (Hons) Degree in Social Work Levels 4 and 5 is the right course, I assume?

If so, and I'll confirm this with BIS, it shouldn't be eligible. It's labelled as a part time course, but full time is a requirement for final year. It's not a standalone topup i.e. Foundation Degree with a one year to convert to a BA(Hons), so it's therefore mixed mode and ineligible for any support.

Cathylb

Hi Folks!
Can anyone tell me if mature students are expected to pay any outstanding loan repayments once they have retired? So that would be from their private and/or state pension?
I have been searching for this info for a while without any success and will be retired within the 30 year write-off period.
Thank you.

Oldernotwiser

Taiko wrote: »

http://www.stockport.ac.uk/courseDetail?courseID=2013&courseTitle=Social Work : B.A. (Hons) Degree in Social Work Levels 4 and 5 is the right course, I assume?

If so, and I'll confirm this with BIS, it shouldn't be eligible. It's labelled as a part time course, but full time is a requirement for final year. It's not a standalone topup i.e. Foundation Degree with a one year to convert to a BA(Hons), so it's therefore mixed mode and ineligible for any support.

Thanks for that - it's another one of those odd ones that you don't come across very often.

Oldernotwiser

Cathylb wrote: »

Hi Folks!
Can anyone tell me if mature students are expected to pay any outstanding loan repayments once they have retired? So that would be from their private and/or state pension?
I have been searching for this info for a while without any success and will be retired within the 30 year write-off period.
Thank you.

Are you talking about earlier loans or people starting out in 2012?

susanblack6520

i have graduate for almost 2 yaers. for a student, study hard is a must be.