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  • JonnyBravo
    JonnyBravo Posts: 4,103 Forumite
    Mortgage-free Glee!
    It's interesting how.....

    Now you're pushing it.
    :rotfl:
  • lemonjelly
    lemonjelly Posts: 8,014 Forumite
    1,000 Posts Combo Breaker Mortgage-free Glee!
    It's interesting how mcc100 makes the effort to read my post and then create a reply to inform me that no one is interested in my post. Is that not paradoxical?

    No. Its an oxymoron.;)
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  • movilogo
    movilogo Posts: 3,235 Forumite
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    Why anyone would be jealous of someone with debts of £253k is beyond me

    Richer you are more debt you build up. :)

    USA is world's richest country and it has highest debt.

    Rich people/countries/companies tends to rack up huge debts because size of their house/economy/operation require more money to run and lenders (banks) do give them money because they (lenders) believe that they can pay back the loan with interest.

    Don't forget one of the fundamental proverbs in this site, debt is not bad, bad debt is bad.
    Happiness is buying an item and then not checking its price after a month to discover it was reduced further.
  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    movilogo wrote: »
    Richer you are more debt you build up. :)

    USA is world's richest country and it has highest debt.

    Who is richer, someone with a £1million house with a £1million mortgage, or someone with a £150k house and no mortgage ?

    Assume that both people have a bank balance of £2000, the same income, and no other debt.

    The reason that the USA is the richest country is because they haven't paid their debt back.

    If I go out and borrow £1million today, does that make me rich ?
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  • Really2
    Really2 Posts: 12,397 Forumite
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    edited 10 June 2011 at 2:28PM
    DervProf wrote: »
    Who is richer, someone with a £1million house with a £1million mortgage, or someone with a £150k house and no mortgage ?

    Assume that both people have a bank balance of £2000, the same income, and no other debt.

    But you are giving one £150K equity and one £0 so on paper it is obvious one is better off in terms of assets.

    So why not say £1M house and a £850K mortgage if you want to make it equal?

    But in the real world the person with a £1M mortgage is likely to be on £250K+ a year. I think that is the point the OP is on about, the more you earn the more you can borrow.
  • Sibley
    Sibley Posts: 1,557 Forumite
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    We will not allow house prices to drop. Deal with it.
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  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    Really2 wrote: »
    But you are giving one £150K equity and one £0 so on paper it is obvious one is better off in terms of assets.

    So why not say £1M house and a £850K mortgage if you want to make it equal?

    But in the real world the person with a £1M mortgage is likely to be on £250K+ a year. I think that is the point the OP is on about, the more you earn the more you can borrow.

    The point I was replying to (as quoted in my reply)........
    movilogo wrote: »
    Richer you are more debt you build up. :)

    USA is world's richest country and it has highest debt.
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  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    Sibley wrote: »
    We will not allow house prices to drop. Deal with it.

    You and......?
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  • System
    System Posts: 178,376 Community Admin
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    DervProf wrote: »
    The point I was replying to (as quoted in my reply)........

    Doesn't really make sense though, a rich person may have more debt but also more assets.

    Your example was more debt and no assets whatsoever.
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  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    Really2 wrote: »
    But in the real world the person with a £1M mortgage is likely to be on £250K+ a year. I think that is the point the OP is on about, the more you earn the more you can borrow.

    "The more you earn, the more you borrow" ?

    Is that the rule ?

    I would have thought that the way to be rich is to earn more, and borrow less.

    I think you might be trying to say "the more you borrow, the more you earn". If you are, my reply would be "if you invest your borrowed money wisely (and with a bit of luck)".
    30 Year Challenge : To be 30 years older. Equity : Don't know, don't care much. Savings : That's asking for ridicule.
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