Scottish Power announces huge price hikes

A._Badger

noh wrote: »

Which just goes to show how statistics can be misrepresented by the press.

So, just to be sure, can we put a precise figure on how many people you would be happy sacrificing?

From the Telegraph: Nov 2008.

"Last winter 25,300 more people died in the winter months than in the summer, an increase of seven per cent on the previous year, data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show. Most of these are due to circulatory and respiratory diseases and the majority occur among the elderly in a situation which has been condemned by campaigners.

There are fears the death toll will be higher this year as forecasters predict lower temperatures than last year, utility bills have risen and the credit crunch means many households are struggling to make ends meet.

The UK has traditionally had a worse record on so-called excess winter deaths even when compared with countries that have colder climates like Finland and Norway, according to the World Health Organisation, but the last comparison was carried out when there were unusually high deaths in the UK due to flu epidemics.

Help the Aged said the number of deaths were still at unacceptable levels."

Poshbird

Yes run away inflation is getting out of control. Prices will keep going up at this rate until we have a big crash.




Solar is the way to go, the nuke crisis in Japan has made many countries think about getting rid of nuclear power altogether.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9NNPREO2.htm

Nuclear is old technology more trouble than its worth, we need to move into the 21st cen.

Solar power is the future. All the dessert regions around the equator should be made into Billions of acres of solar farms. As the Earth turns the ones in daylight can provide countries that do away with nuclear.

mbga9pgf

And how do you move the power from the largest uninhabited area on the planet idiot? The problem is not generation, its storage and transport.

chewmylegoff

mbga9pgf wrote: »

And how do you move the power from the largest uninhabited area on the planet idiot? The problem is not generation, its storage and transport.

you don't. instead, you move the people to the power. once you've built the solar farms, you divert a couple of rivers, e.g. the nile, through the middle of the sahara and bingo, you've got everything you need.

noh

A._Badger wrote: »

So, just to be sure, can we put a precise figure on how many people you would be happy sacrificing?

From the Telegraph: Nov 2008.

"Last winter 25,300 more people died in the winter months than in the summer, an increase of seven per cent on the previous year, data from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show. Most of these are due to circulatory and respiratory diseases and the majority occur among the elderly in a situation which has been condemned by campaigners.

There are fears the death toll will be higher this year as forecasters predict lower temperatures than last year, utility bills have risen and the credit crunch means many households are struggling to make ends meet.

The UK has traditionally had a worse record on so-called excess winter deaths even when compared with countries that have colder climates like Finland and Norway, according to the World Health Organisation, but the last comparison was carried out when there were unusually high deaths in the UK due to flu epidemics.

Help the Aged said the number of deaths were still at unacceptable levels."

If you would care to research the facts you will find the rate of excess winter deaths has very little to do with the actual temperatures.


European countries with colder climates have fewer excess winter deaths. European countries with milder winter climates have more.
The highest rate of excess winter deaths in Europe is in Greece. The lowest is in Finland.

Internal household temperature have a bearing on the number of deaths but the biggest factors are exposure to outside temperatures and inactivity. Plus the level of disease in the general population.


If fuel were cheap and every house in the UK was heated throughout winter the rate of excess winter deaths would be unlikely to reduce significantly.
Here is one article from the BMJ Seasonal mortality among elderly people with unrestricted home heating

chucky

chewmylegoff wrote: »

you don't. instead, you move the people to the power. once you've built the solar farms, you divert a couple of rivers, e.g. the nile, through the middle of the sahara and bingo, you've got everything you need.

at last a visionary - why didn't anyone think of this before!!!