Summer work for teachers?

chilto

goldengirl007 wrote: »

I think a good idea would be to run a FREE Childrens club for the mothers who do not get six weeks off over the summer holidays and have to pay half their incomes to childcare cost. After all you are being paid for the six week holiday already. With the amount of holidays teachers get over the year and the chance to take on private students after school hours and bank teaching you have the opportunity to near double your income over the year. Not many other professions get this opportunity.

I can't work out if you're trying to 'have a go' at teachers because they get long holidays, or are encouraging them to go and work in the holidays?

gillyrah

I've always thought that the people who have a go at teachers for having holidays should have a go at teaching themselves! I trained as a teacher and it nearly killed me. I have CHOSEN not to teach as I'm not really into 80hour weeks in term time. I'd rather have 2 jobs thanks!

chilto

gillyrah wrote: »

I've always thought that the people who have a go at teachers for having holidays should have a go at teaching themselves! I trained as a teacher and it nearly killed me. I have CHOSEN not to teach as I'm not really into 80hour weeks in term time. I'd rather have 2 jobs thanks!

I quite agree - I have quite a few friends who are teachers and am going to be doing a PGCE in September and know that if you average the hours of work out over the year, teachers probably end up working the same amount of time as people in other jobs...however for the longer holidays and greater job satisfaction, I am going to be dropping more than half my salary in the early years... I fully agree - if you want to have a go at teaching, try it - before you knock it!

cgk1

goldengirl007 wrote: »

I think a good idea would be to run a FREE Childrens club for the mothers who do not get six weeks off over the summer holidays and have to pay half their incomes to childcare cost. After all you are being paid for the six week holiday already. With the amount of holidays teachers get over the year and the chance to take on private students after school hours and bank teaching you have the opportunity to near double your income over the year. Not many other professions get this opportunity.

Boo-hoo, if it's so great why don't you do it?

cgk1

chilto wrote: »

I quite agree - I have quite a few friends who are teachers and am going to be doing a PGCE in September and know that if you average the hours of work out over the year, teachers probably end up working the same amount of time as people in other jobs...however for the longer holidays and greater job satisfaction, I am going to be dropping more than half my salary in the early years... I fully agree - if you want to have a go at teaching, try it - before you knock it!

Indeed, if people think it's so easy and the holidays are so great, they should ponder on the fact that a significant number of newly qualified teachers have left the profession in less than five years. I did it and it was far too much hassle for the money involved, regardless of the holidays.

Bmth100

I've just finished the Cambridge CELTA qualification and had my induction with an ESL college today, which I start at on Monday with a summer teaching contract. Is there anything like this in your area, summer schools or anything like that?

Bad thing about CELTA in England though, is that these colleges go pretty quiet in the other seasons heh.

phildo_2

My OH is a teacher (2 years since qualifying) and she splits the summer hols into a week unwinding at home, 3 weeks doing all the lesson plans for the following year and then 2 weeks away. This means that she doesn't end up doing 60-70 hour weeks during term time as she teaches until 3.30pm each day and then marks until 5.30pm but doesn't work much at home either in evenings or weekends.
She says that most of the other teachers do nothing in the school holidays and then moan about the amount of work they do during term... so personal choices.. but teachers are paid in the holidays on the basis that they have work to plan and prepare for.. If they choose to do other things (more holidays/another job) then fine but they can't complain about the workload later!

eg09

goldengirl007 wrote: »

I think a good idea would be to run a FREE Childrens club for the mothers who do not get six weeks off over the summer holidays and have to pay half their incomes to childcare cost. After all you are being paid for the six week holiday already. With the amount of holidays teachers get over the year and the chance to take on private students after school hours and bank teaching you have the opportunity to near double your income over the year. Not many other professions get this opportunity.

Haha! This attitude just beggars belief!

1. I (and every teacher I know) work long into most evenings to mark/prepare for the next day. I'm assuming your job does not require this of you at the end of your working day?

2. Every weekend I do school work - for hours. Do you have to do this kind of thing on your days off?

3. Every half term/summer I go in to school to tidy/sort stuff out for the next term. In the summer, this takes days to do properly (I have no TA). Do you do this for work during your scheduled holidays?

4. I take my class on residential trips which I am not paid any extra for, but have round the clock responsibility for 30+ kids. Do you ever have to be on duty for days on end, with no extra pay?

5. I take on loads of extra responsibilities at school, such as training other staff, co-ordinating subjects and running clubs - which I am not paid extra to do.

There are honestly loads of other 'little extras' that teachers do, but everyone conveniently forgets when they want to have a rant about having to look after their children for themselves. Basically, I am saying that the holidays may come around in long stretches, but we lose practically all of our free time the rest of the year, so I really think it is pretty balanced.

Sorry that this doesn't answer the OP's question, but needs to be said!

sweetilemon

Do teachers get paid for their holidays? I work term time in a school but not as a teacher. Our pay is split over 12months so although we recieve pay in the holidays its due to a reduced rate of pay term time. I thought teachers may be the same. Holidays and weekends I am a childrens support worker. I dont think teachers are given enough credit their job is certainly not 9-3 as some presume.

gillyrah

Teachers are paid for holidays as they are expected to work through them.