CSA gets a new hat CMEC

Sensemaya

EthelBloggs wrote:

I think im some parts of america.. non paying fathers are on a database so when they go to renew the tax/insurance etc on their cars.. they are flagged up and can't get it doen til they contact the child support ppl

But they would probably put the details in their parents or partners name. Persistant non-paying NRPs would find a way round that.

ReportInvestor

Sensemaya wrote:

They already have these powers, but have failed to use them.

This was brought up by two Tories - from separate angles.

One wondered if some of the powers actually went too far and were disproportionate (which would cause problems with EU law).

Another wondered why they hadn't been used. I thought Hutton bluffed here, saying that it was not the use but the effect that mattered - yet clearly the "effect" to date has been minimal.

Hutton was also keen to counter charges that this is just another delaying tactic from a government that has been slow to address the issues. The LibDems were in sniping mode and he was pretty dismissive of their taunts, claiming that they never voted for any tough legislation, just talked a tough game.

Sensemaya

ReportInvestor wrote:

Just look at the complex complaints procedure - and heaven knows there have been enough cause for complaint

Yep... what fun all that is.

How about this?

http://www.csa.gov.uk/new/advisors/engw/ :rotfl:

Sensemaya

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Are you familiar with the enforcement action?

aMeLia'S~MuMMY

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lynzpower wrote:

Does anyone know where the CSA is based? I wouldnt mind a job there to be honest.

OH NO YOU WOULDN'T ~ TRUST ME !!

Scarlett1

krashovr10ad wrote:

Although I get the impression that it might be 2014 before everything is in place (if you're already in the system)...

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by that time the children of thousands of PWC under CS1 and 2 will probably be of age and wont be entitled to maintenance anymore, shame they (and me) have to be used as guinea pigs until the government come up with a plan and an agency that sees results

Scarlett1

aMeLia'S~MuMMY wrote:

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OH NO YOU WOULDN'T ~ TRUST ME !!

oh yes you would, on the news recently they showed the CSA with really plush offices :rotfl: :rotfl:

Sensemaya

The White Paper:

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/childmaintenance/

Enjoy!

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Sensemaya wrote:

ReportInvestor

Are you familiar with the enforcement action?

I can't say I am. Thanks for your link. It looks like a lot of words and not much action.

I am more familiar with redress of grievance and human rights issues. It seems to me that the modern state has real trouble with enforcement. ASBOs, with the low level of proof, are one thing, but once you aim to take money off people you have to have a watertight legal case that will stand pretty rigorous tests - which also creates scope for delays.

Another issue I remember from the debate was what happens if there is a private agreement (obviously the government likes these as it means no Agency involvement) but then payments are missed.

Hutton suggested that the New Agency would come in on this, but it struck me as a likely delaying tactic by fathers.

singlehouseholder

There's a brand new dept set up in my area, they ran a huge recruitment campaign lately. The grade of all the new officers mean that the vast majority, all in my area, are dealing only with technical cases/complaints. I think a new "privatised" dept will be a hell of a lot tougher than the old. The dept are crap when it comes to legalities/enforcement/repayments- across the board. I think we can rest assured that the new agency will use all the powers available to claw in the cash-one way or another. Sadly its too late for a lot of peeple, but for those that it could make a difference for, I really hope it does.