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HELP HELP HELP With Halifax Mortgage application

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  • payless
    payless Posts: 6,957 Forumite
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    Can't recall Halifax form asking the question ( I would always highlight anyway- regardless of timescale)

    Halifax will consider B/R if discharged and subject to Credit ref/ score... wonder if info collected at app stage did not throw up the b/r ?
    Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as (financial) advice.
  • Richard_Webster
    Richard_Webster Posts: 7,646 Forumite
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    Can't recall Halifax form asking the question

    If that's the case the difficulty is creating the paper trail so the lender can't say they didn't know.

    Auntie is lending us £25K.

    Granny is selling the place for £120K to us but it is worth £200K but needs £30K of work done - want lender to lend £150K 75% LTV.

    In the days of 85% LTV BTL mortgages, dad has BTL mortgage wants to transfer property worth £130K+ to son subject to £110K mortgage. Broker tells Birmingham Midshires the son buying it for £130K. (I tell them he is just replacing existing £110K mortgage and dad is making a gift of rest of value. Birmingham Midshires withdraw offer because of mixed messages.)


    These are all non standard situations where we are never sure what the lender has actually been told. How do you get the message through?
    RICHARD WEBSTER

    As a retired conveyancing solicitor I believe the information given in the post to be useful assuming any properties concerned are in England/Wales but I accept no liability for it.
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    I think the law should be changed so that once a mortgage offer has been made the lender should be obliged to make absolutely all and every search that they want to make before exchange. After exchange the mortgage offer should be as legally binding as a bankers draft.

    My mortgage offer had a clause which basically said "We can cancel your offer at any point we want right up until completion for no reason at all other than that we think you neglected to tell us something, or we believe your circumstances might change."

    And then theres another clause which basically says "If we find out something happens to you after you've completed that would have made us not want to lend to you before you had completed, we can call back your mortgage as well."

    So basically if you broke your leg after completing they could say they didnt know that you were going to break your leg when they made the offer so they'll have your house back.

    Bunch of bandits.
  • hcb42
    hcb42 Posts: 5,962 Forumite
    and if the law changed and people who had a significant change of circumstances after their formal offer, were then to end up in deep water debt wise, it would be on Watchdog stating how irresponsible these banks are - before I can say Anne Robinson..
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    I'd much rather have a mortgage payment of a few hundred quid I might not be able to pay than no mortgage and a bill for hundreds of thousands I have no way of paying.
  • roger196
    roger196 Posts: 610 Forumite
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    I think the law should be changed so that once a mortgage offer has been made the lender should be obliged to make absolutely all and every search that they want to make before exchange. After exchange the mortgage offer should be as legally binding as a bankers draft.

    My mortgage offer had a clause which basically said "We can cancel your offer at any point we want right up until completion for no reason at all other than that we think you neglected to tell us something, or we believe your circumstances might change."

    And then theres another clause which basically says "If we find out something happens to you after you've completed that would have made us not want to lend to you before you had completed, we can call back your mortgage as well."

    So basically if you broke your leg after completing they could say they didnt know that you were going to break your leg when they made the offer so they'll have your house back.

    Bunch of bandits.
    Are these clauses unfair and hence unenforceable?
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,312 Forumite
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    I've been through the Intermediary Data Capture and Mortgage Promise forms and there is no declaration of adverse credit of any kind required - default, CCJ, bankruptcy or anything else.

    In addition, the Halifax intermediary criteria on bankruptcy simply reads;-
    Only if discharged and subject to a credit score

    MOTWYW
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • neverdespairgirl
    neverdespairgirl Posts: 16,501 Forumite

    Because of the hassle involved at the last minute before completion in establishing whether a bankrupt J. Smith is your client John Smith I generally have them done at an early stage as well so we have time to do any necessary checks if the entries could relate to our client. It does mean that the client has to pay an extra £2 per name though. If we then establish that it is our client we would write to the lender before exchange asking if this information affected its lending decision.

    However I do this more to avoid the hassle of establishing that the bankrupt person with a similar name is not my client - i don't think this is general practice in the profession.

    I know my parents' solicitor has tended to do this for them - as they have a very common surname, and my mother has a common first name, too. So it makes sense to establish that she isn't any "Mary Smith" (not her actual name) who might have gone bankrupt.

    I don't know if it's that common, though. He didn't do it recently when we bought (same solicitor, my godfather) but we don't have names which are nearly as frequently-occuring.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • ruggedtoast
    ruggedtoast Posts: 9,819 Forumite
    No updates from the op. Hope no news is good news.
  • Trollfever
    Trollfever Posts: 2,051 Forumite
    Any updates?
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