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I_know_my_ABC_and_my_CMYK

ruggedtoast wrote: »

You can carry on looking after her at home. My grandmother remained at home with Alzheimers until she was too sick for us to look after and she finished out her few remaining days at a mental hospital.

I dont especially recommend this, and the £450 may seem like good value to not have to look after an Alzheimers patient, but the government are not forcing her into a care home, and forcing her to sell her house, and forcing her to pay £450 a week for the privilege.

Care homes offer basic medical assistance round the clock and have to call a doctor or dial 999 in an emergency, like a home carer.

I dont wish to seem harsh but at some level your family has decided you would rather strangers do this than yourselves. There is nothing wrong with that , but you seem to want the taxpayer to foot the bill as well.

Depends on the degree of Alzheimer's.

My mother had the disease and myself and my father cared for her. The sister at the day care center where she went for 1 day a week suggested that she go into hospital for respite as we were totally exhausted.

The degree of Alzheimer's with her was so difficult that the nurses on the ward couldn't cope with her. Myself and my father agreed to her going into a secure hospital ward specially for difficult Alzheimer's patients for women only.


The nurses on that ward had to pass her around between them for no more than 15 mins at a time or they couldn't cope with her. She used to walk up and down all day long, she wasn't one of these nice little old ladies that sit in the chair all day watching television, she used to re arrange that furniture, push the other ladies out of the way, hit them you name it she did it.

In typical Alzheimer's fashion she lived exactly 5 years from developing it to dying, new medications now can prolong the life and lucidity of the person.

I could fill this this whole thread page up with how bad she was, some people have to go into care as their family's cannot cope with them.

If my mother hadn't gone into care my father would have died before she did as it was killing him and the nursing staff were very worried about him. It took its toll on him and he ended up with having a very debilitating stroke.

Sorry to hijack your thread OP, I hope you managed to sort something out.

BugglyB

FATBALLZ wrote: »

I thought there was a separate subforum for "my poor old nana, has all this money and the government want her to use it to pay her way, but her wish was for me to have $$$$$$. Please help my poor old nana." posts.

What a thing to say, this lady has come on asking for advice and her nan has just been diagnosed with a horrible condition. If you didn't like it you didn't have to post?

dorset_nurse

Mojisola wrote: »

If you are self-funding, you can claim AA and similar benefits.

True, I was still talking about LA funded people in that part of the post. Thanks for making it clear to everybody

dorset_nurse

I_know_my_ABC_and_my_CMYK wrote: »

Depends on the degree of Alzheimer's.

I could fill this this whole thread page up with how bad she was, some people have to go into care as their family's cannot cope with them.

Lots of people think caring is easy- even relatives who watch their family caring for their parents/grandparents can be oblivious to the challenges and lack of sleep that they can suffer.

poppysarah

dorset_nurse wrote: »

Lots of people think caring is easy- even relatives who watch their family caring for their parents/grandparents can be oblivious to the challenges and lack of sleep that they can suffer.

It isn't.

But putting nana in a home and then wanting her house on the cheap isn't nice either.

Mojisola

Alter_ego wrote: »

To make it even clearer, LA funded people can claim AA and DLA mobility (If in payment before 65) This is from personal experience, the allowances were ignored during assesment. The matter was checked thoroughly and deemed correct by Oxfordshire CC

Have things changed? This is what the government website says - https://www.direct.gov.uk/en/CaringForSomeone/CareHomes/DG_10031411

Your local council is helping you with your care home fees -

Effect on the care component of DLA and AA -

It will be paid for the first four weeks (if you were already entitled to receive it before moving into a care home).

Mojisola

jokers wrote: »

from reading through your posts i very much doubt that you know what you are talking about.

MSE is asking regular posters to be nice to Newbies. The same should apply to Newbies - if you can't say it politely, please don't say it.

dorset_nurse

Alter_ego wrote: »

Regarding DLA, I only quoted Mobility component. For AA things could have changed in the last 18 months, if so sorry to mislead. Also I suppose Oxfordshire CC could have got it wrong.
I could hardly believe it at the time, which was why I queried it. Believe me, I still have the DWP letter acknowledging the fact that my relative had entered long term care and was in receipt of both allowances. Also copies of the financial assesment showing both allowances as income the CC ignored.
Perhaps the regs have tightened up since 2005, but it continued till 18 months ago.

It the 3 different councils I have experience in (not Oxford) the individual is definately not allowed AA while the LA is funding a place. All of my experience is post 2005 so there must have been a change.
I am aware of a few examples where people have been asked to pay back the money when the LA realised they have been paying for placement and AA.

Alter_ego

Yes thanks, that's why I've kept paperwork to prove I (as POA) had made correct notifications. Sadly the relative has passed away and the LA has closed the file, so I don't anticipate problems.
It is probably pertinent to say that about a year before the relative died, I had a visit from a DWP assessor (AKA investigator) She was also aware of the circumstances, her only input to the situation was to insist that I opened a bank account in my name to receive the allowances (But not pension or pension credit) That was in spite of the allowances going into the relatives account for 3 years without problem. After a while I tended to just go along with what I was told in writing, it seemed that one section within departments had no idea that other sections existed, let alone understand what was going on.

dorset_nurse

Sorry to hear that. Well done for being so vigilant with the finances, there are a lot of cases where they are unable to correct mistakes
Unfortunately thats how a lot of people can get away with fraud nowadays as different departments don't always communicate well between them. The LA's make lots of mistakes- I have known peoples homes be "forgotten" about and the LA fund them only to realise the family are living in/have sold the house. Makes it very awkward when they try and claim it back!