Is it legal...

prosaver

forgotmyname wrote: »

legal but if they have a spot check you are more likely to get pulled and put on the weighbridge.

The chassis plate will have the maximum axle loading weights and also the cars gross loaded weight.

Get a small trailer.

i thought that however if you have 3 grown adults in the back wouldnt that equal the same weight as the said load
13 stone times 3 adults plus suitcases...?

soup

Hammyman wrote: »

Only as long as when you have a boot full of luggage and seat full of rear passengers that you do not overload the rear axle. Four figure fines if VOSA or Police see it on its knees, put it over a weighbridge and find its overloaded.

Very unlikely isnt it ? the rear seats are designed with passengers in mind and so is the boot space. Unless its filled totally with bricks then it will be fine.

s_b

soup wrote: »

Very unlikely isnt it ? the rear seats are designed with passengers in mind and so is the boot space. Unless its filled totally with bricks then it will be fine.

you is assuming this estate car is in as good as new condition and springs and shocks to manufacturers specification (ie 100% efficient)
in the real world estate cars are glorified vans and lead hard lives, it therefore follows that umpteen cases in the back plus the proverbial kitchen sink and 5 steaming bodies and underinflated tyres may just be more than the legal definition of safe in the eyes of mr plod or vosa

soup

Yes. I assume its just a normal estate car with an mot that will carry a max of 3 rear passengers and their normal luggage as it was designed to do. All tyres need to be at the correct pressure for the load. No steaming bodies in the boot section of course. It will be fine.

forgotmyname

I could easily overload my mondeo estate. 600kg loading limit.

5 passengers, roofbox and luggage could easily exceed that if i was not careful.

Also adding luggage all the way at the rear behind the axle will have a greater effect.

Hammyman

Woody. wrote: »

You can't do a car for excess weight (only a car derived van or larger), the offence is using a vehicle in a dangerous condition £60 and three points minimum.

WRONG. You CAN do a car for being overweight and overloaded on any axle.

Cars are subject to exactly the same law on loading as commercial vehicles.

Hammyman

soup wrote: »

Very unlikely isnt it ?

No. Back in the 1990's where I did night trunks to London and back up and down the A1, it was a common sight to see cars with boots full of booze and fags pulled over by the Police.

And when I worked at a Tesco RDC in 2007, one night they pulled in a bloke who was on his way to run a trading stand at a show near us and put his car over our axle weighbridge. It left on the back of a tow truck...

Hammyman

soup wrote: »

Very unlikely isnt it ? the rear seats are designed with passengers in mind and so is the boot space. Unless its filled totally with bricks then it will be fine.

Ford Mondeo:

The figures on the Vin Plate are....
Max Vehicle weight 1980kg
Max train Weight 3460kg
Max front axle weight 1085kg
Max rear axle Weight 985kg

The vehicles kerb weight is 1364kg. The Kerb weight is the standard vehicle with a full tank of fuel but with no occupants or luggage.

That leaves a loading capacity of 616Kg INCLUDING THE WEIGHT OF THE PASSENGERS. Assume 5 male adults at 13 stone and you've only 206kg or roughly 8 sacks of spuds loading capacity left. If a couple of the passengers are like me and my mate knocking on 20 stone (truck driving isn't good for you ) you've only got just over 100kg loading capacity. Four or five suitcases can easily exceed that.

And as I said, the rear axle weight can easily be exceeded.

forgotmyname

Used to be a running joke at work, All the new drivers were took on as van drivers then put them
through their HGV after a set time. As you worked your way upto the bigger vehicles the drivers
got heavier and heavier.

Not upto 20 stone and i dont plan to be but none of us would win slimmer of the year competitions.

I did want to take the FIL's electric scooter but it was way too heavy.

Woody._2

Hammyman wrote: »

WRONG. You CAN do a car for being overweight and overloaded on any axle.

Cars are subject to exactly the same law on loading as commercial vehicles.

I think you'll find if you do some research you are the one who's wrong.