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Enuite in smallish bedroom?

I am thinking of putting an ensuite in our master bedroom. The room is approx. 3.2m x 3.8m, with a small chimney breast and sloped recessed ceiling at edge concealing stairs to loft conversion.

We currently have a king sized bedded, fitted wardrobe and triple wardrob and it's not that spacious. My idea involves getting rid of the fitted wardrobe and fitting an ensuite approx. 1.2m x 1.6m in the corner - the designs I have done allow for an 800mm sq corner/quadrant shower, a wc and a small sink, with either small door opening into bedroom or a sliding door.. My wife thinks we'll have no room at all in the room - I think by reducing to a double bed with overbed wardrobes we can do it fine.

Anyone got any experience of fitting an ensuite in a small bedroom? I will try and upload some scale drawings too.
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  • Doozergirl
    Doozergirl Posts: 34,082 Forumite
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    edited 22 May 2011 at 10:38AM
    The en-suite design that uses least space would be narrower (you can do it 800mm internally) but possibly slightly longer, say 1.8 might do it. Door in the middle of the length, square shower with a bifold door immediately to one side, sink in front of the door, toilet to the other side. Quadrant showers save no space at all in a room but provide less space to shower in, I cannot abide them. If you built in wardrobes across that same wall, you could streamline the room a bit better.

    Do you really need an ensuite in a room that small? It's a nice sized room as it is, but eating into it, I think you might suffer for it. I'd be interested to see drawings. Is there space anywhere else upstairs that you could steal for the ensuite?
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  • rexmedorum
    rexmedorum Posts: 782 Forumite
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    edited 22 May 2011 at 10:47AM
    In Japan I have seen sinks that move either above the toilet or above the bath. (When using the toilet it's above the bath when you need the sink, you move it above the toilet). Clever space saving, I wonder if something like this is available in the UK :)

    Seriously though is there anything wrong with the main bathroom? Maybe it's cheaper and more space efficient to fix that?

    We have an ensuitein a 2 bed flat and I find it a waste of space (but then there ther's just 2 of us)
  • phill99
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    You also need to think about access to the main soil pipe. If it is on the other side of the house, then your plans maybe a non-starter.
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  • Sulli
    Sulli Posts: 101 Forumite
    edited 22 May 2011 at 11:09AM
    Here's a rough scale drawing:

    bedensuite.jpg

    The ensuite is the square in the bottom right.

    Our main bathroom is fine, its that we need an additional toilet and there's nowhere downstairs to do it cost effectively.
  • PasturesNew
    PasturesNew Posts: 70,698 Forumite
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    Do you need an enclosure at all? What about a 'wet room' approach across the whole width, with either a screen that folds flat to the wall when not in use or curtain.

    I've no idea how big that is as I'm all "feet and inches" :)

    If you're using a corner shower though, you can probably tuck the sink up the side of it (bottom edge) as 1/4 of the quarter is often fixed at each wall edge. Then you could perhaps put in a corner loo where your drawing shows a loo and cut the corner off the room.
  • Oldsoak
    Oldsoak Posts: 195 Forumite
    As your sketch shows the toilet is fixed to what will be a partitioned wall. If the wall on the r/h side is an external wall, that will be the option to mount it on so that the soil pipe can go out to the stack. You need to locate the stack if it's external (this could be a problem either way). You would be best served by getting a plumber in to tell you what is possible.
  • Sulli
    Sulli Posts: 101 Forumite
    Cheers - there's no external wall, the external wall is at the left of the drawing, and the soil is to the top left of where the drawing ends. It needs to be a macerator or possibly soil going under floorboards with enough of a drop.
  • phill99
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    Sulli wrote: »
    Cheers - there's no external wall, the external wall is at the left of the drawing, and the soil is to the top left of where the drawing ends. It needs to be a macerator or possibly soil going under floorboards with enough of a drop.

    You mean a saniflo? Saniflo's are the work of the devil himself and were invented by the French as a retribution for Waterloo.

    If you are thinking of running a 4" soil pipe under the floorboards, remember that the joists will be 4" deep. May cause a problem if you have to go through them!!
    Eat vegetables and fear no creditors, rather than eat duck and hide.
  • fluffnutter
    fluffnutter Posts: 23,179 Forumite
    I don't get ensuites. Who wants to poo in a cupboard in the corner of the bedroom? Gross.
    "Growth for growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell" - Edward Abbey.
  • phill99
    phill99 Posts: 9,093 Forumite
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    Evidently the OP does. I know where you are coming from. Think an ensuite shower room is more appropriate.
    Eat vegetables and fear no creditors, rather than eat duck and hide.
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