British Work Ethic Condemned

Graham_Devon

It's a different country, with different cultures. I've worked for people who expect you to do overtime for free and thank your lucky stars you are working for them. I've worked for people who pay / reward you in different ways for giving more than required. To be honest, my attitude towards doing more is down to the attitude of the company.

I work extra for one place and don't even bother letting them know I've done extra. They treat me well, I do the same back. Another though, the attitude is completely different, and everyone from the staff to the managers have attitude issues it seems. Do more there and you'll please the managers (though they won't offer to pay you extra or even acknowledge you) but you'll fall out with the staff. Management wonder why they have staffing issues.

Tell him to go to Spain and enjoy a siesta.

ILW

diable wrote: »

Being self employed the more hours I put in the more I get paid if requested otherwise I just home at my designated time.

I have a small business and it is not as simple. Half the work is getting and retaining customers which it is very difficult to quantify. You can put days in and never get the deal.

globalds

Worst thing to happen to British managers was the smashing of the Unions.

I worked in a closed shop for 5 years and managers having some resistance in place to stop knee jerk reactions from being followed through created a better quality manager.

I worked for 6 years in Japan and that closed shop environment was the closest experience I have had working in the UK to the working style in Japan.

ILW

I suspect that very few of the top bananas got there by clock watching. Depends on what your goals are.

Loughton_Monkey

Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

Exactly. Something this country never did to get rich?

diable wrote: »

And the point is?

My point is quite clear.

Whilst I don't necessarily condone child labour, it is a sad fact that 'do-gooders' who take away their business from factories that employ 14 year olds are in fact creating localised poverty in the false hope that the child will go to school instead. He won't. He will just lose his job and the plates in that household will be emptier.

But mainly, I find it a bit ironic that this very country - that used to be the richest in the world - got that way through a series of development that involved child labour. Many of my ancestors started work aged 12 because only in the early 1800's did 'secondary' schools start for the 'masses'.

So it was 'OK' for us. It did us proud and got us rich - to a point where we could afford secondary schools etc. For countries such as India, which we raped and exploited, and who are now trying to tread that very same path to wealth, now have extreme pressure put on them by ..... er.... the British.... not to allow it.

diable

ILW wrote: »

I have a small business and it is not as simple. Half the work is getting and retaining customers which it is very difficult to quantify. You can put days in and never get the deal.

I !!!!! myself out to the highest bidder if you run a business the you put in the hours and if you are successful then you live in the big house with the pretty wife sending your children to private school ;o))

Spartacus_Mills

diable wrote: »

Learnt from experience, !!!!!d myself out and got fcuk all out of it made more money out of contracting and prostituting myself for the highest bidder, if they don't pay I don't work.

How are you doing?

Same here. It is interesting that JLR, if you apply for a contract role there, they are quite clear that they will only pay for a set number of hours a week. Last one I was offered was 37.5. I did not take it I got something else.

If they want to pay 37.5 hours then that is all they are going to get from me AFAIC.

Generali

I will do what has to be done to get the job finished by-and-large. I expect to be recognised for that though, by which I mean be paid more and get promoted.

If they don't then I'll work for someone who appreciates what I do for them. It has to be a two way thing.

dianadors

I got my work ethic from my Dad. He was always early for work so ready to start on time. He never had a day off sick - he was a miner and came home from a shift once having been hit in the face by machinery and needing 20 stitches. He'd been and had the stitches, then gone back to finish the shift. If ever I feel too ill to go to work, I daren't ring in sick as I am still scared my dad might find out! Up until the age of 44, I had always "gone the extra mile" by staying to finish work etc but had been taken total advantage of used, chewed up and spit out by every company I had done this for. In the job I am in now, I do the work I am paid for. I am punctual, flexible, will do whatever work they ask me to do within the hours that they pay me. I'll cover for absense, but expect to be paid or take time off in lieu for this. It is a privately run company and all profits go into the directors pocket. I work to make life better for my family not theirs. My husband works for the police service and often works over and beyond as it is for the benefit of the public and not making money "for the man".

abaxas

diable wrote: »

I am old fashioned, I don't expect to get paid for doing nothing and I don't give my time for free.

I'm old fashioned too.

You should just be able to sack anyone you like, whenever you like.