Millions give up on owning property

debtistheft

Wheezy wrote: »

A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own opinions.

-Proverbs 18:2

Amen brother. Perhaps this is why the bulls hang around on this board like a dirty fart?

robmatic

debtistheft wrote: »

Another Bull, rushes in to help dodge the question.

Why are housing bulls on here. What do they care about house pirces if they have already bought and house prices are such a good investment. Do they buy TV sets and then go on and on and on about how TV sets forums and tell people how great TV is?

Why are you all so scared that house prices will fall that you spend months, perhaps years on here talkign about them? You must all be so indebted that you are scared stiff that prices may fall so you spend all your time on here arguing why they won't.

Housing bulls are a bunch of saddo's. FACT.

Ignoring all the bull/bear/playground stuff. Why are you on here if you don't intend to buy? What interest do you have?

And who is scared about house prices falling?

Conrad

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Admittedly this is around Berlin and Stuttgart where the affluence spreads for miles. But affluence doesnt spread for miles here, it usually spreads for a five minute walk when you hit the next council estate.

Mate, you must inhabit a differnt England to me:eek:

I can take you on a drive through East Herts, down into the outskirts of North London (Hadley Wood, !!!! Fosters, Bushey, Radlet, and many many more inter connected places) where you will see almost nothing but very expensive homes, mile upon mile, almost over whelming. Almost every village around me (and for something like a 40 mile radius), is dripping with wealth.

And I've only scratched the surface here. You could then turn back North and head through Rickmansworth, Cjorley Wood, up into Amersham and on and on and on - in the main, wealth in every nook.

I know Berlin well, again we must inhabit parallel universes mate, no offense. Berlin has just 10% ownership and is very very poor compared to the areas Ive mentioned.

Where do you live?

System

debtistheft wrote: »

Another Bull, rushes in to help dodge the question.

I answered the question perfectly, no dodging there.

And, I'm not a bull, because I think prices will stagnate.

Unless you mean the the no-brain version of the term as in wanting something to happen. But... you want them to rise, so it can't be that either.

Wow, this is awkward. It's like you tried to make the most embarassing post ever (not counting B Blank, natch)

Wheezy_2

debtistheft wrote: »

Amen brother. Perhaps this is why the bulls hang around on this board like a dirty fart?

If only you would be altogether silent. For you, that would be wisdom.

- Job 13:5

SandC

debtistheft wrote: »

Another Bull, rushes in to help dodge the question.

Why are housing bulls on here. What do they care about house pirces if they have already bought and house prices are such a good investment. Do they buy TV sets and then go on and on and on about how TV sets forums and tell people how great TV is?

Why are you all so scared that house prices will fall that you spend months, perhaps years on here talkign about them? You must all be so indebted that you are scared stiff that prices may fall so you spend all your time on here arguing why they won't.

Housing bulls are a bunch of saddo's. FACT.

Nah, TVs depreciate. Im still a bit peeved at how quickly the last one did as it goes but hey ho.

I'm not scared that house prices may fall, as I've previously said. I come on here cos some of the topics interest me, simple as that. And believe it or not it's because you actually give a good debate that I've contributed towards your threads, I actually get your reasonings, just wanted to give my opinions on the other side of things. What is right and good for one is not so for all.

Conrad

debtistheft wrote: »

Why are housing bulls on here.

Well, I started out a bear and was a user of housepricecrash from 2004/5.

Now I'm more bullish.

What draws me most to the debate is the psychology of, for want of a better word, the bear. In particular the more permanent bears that generaly have a world view that sees the world as the worst possible world, and one where danger is omnipresent and suffocating. For example in your narrative runs a theme concerned with risks - what if you are ill / what if you are made redundant. Yet this is illogical given the cold hard fact that 99% of owners KEEP thier homes, so why focus on the 1%?

My interest was sparked by a shrink book that explained bearish / more generally pessimistic types share certain traites such as;

1) Will almost always consider themselves realists

2) Will argue thier pessimism is optimism in fact

3) Will be generaly less able to expand thier reality tunnels and tend to posses a very immovable world view that is irresponsive to new data unless it fits thier pre - conceptions. A strong propensity to filter the facts.

4) Have recieved brain imprints at key stages in infant development that contributed to an unshakable negative outlook. This can for example include accidental experiences such as being left too long between feeds, or having foot cramp and being unable to fix it

5) Will find it more difficult to recognise that in reality thier brain processing is going on at a much deeper subconscious level, and that thier supposed 'decisions' are completely beyond the conscious part of thier brain. Thier conscious brain is merely a jellyfish on the tide of the subconsious

6) Will remain a pessimist for life, and not sit back and realise 95% of thier dire predictions did not come true


Bears just fascinate me, as do conspiracy theorists and end of times folk

[Deleted User]

Im not a bull, i have a mortgage and no other debt

I just wanted to point out that id rather own a home by the time i retire and have some savings to live life

rather than rent untill the day i die, using my savings to pay rent after i stop work.

I dont care if prices increase or decrease, my home is for living in. I dont see it as an investment (except for my family upon death)

chucky

unfortunately if you're not one of the nutters that believes that their is going to be a crash or are indifferent to house prices rising or falling you're classed as a bull.

sad but true.

System

I think we've discovered that bloke who's wife stole his house latest account.