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Tenancy Application Form - children over 18?

We are hoping to rent a house and have been asked to fill in the tenancy application forms.

It says that "all persons over 18" will need to complete an application form and be named in the agreement.

I have a 19 year old (disabled) son who is in full-time education - does he still need to fill one in?

I also have a 23 year old son who is moving to London in a couple of weeks, so will only be visiting the new house - assuming he doesn't need to fill one in?

Thanks for any info!
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  • GAH
    GAH Posts: 1,034 Forumite
    Yes your 19 year old son will have to fill one in, as he is in education, they will probably end up just doing a credit check.

    As your other son will not be living there, he does not need to go through checks and be on agreement.
  • jjlandlord
    jjlandlord Posts: 5,099 Forumite
    GAH wrote: »
    Yes your 19 year old son will have to fill one in, as he is in education, they will probably end up just doing a credit check.

    Why would they credit check him?

    If OP intends to rent a property with his family, his children, and dependants, should surely not be tenants: Only him and spouse will be.

    I would check with landlord/agent what they intend to do with these forms. Imo, only the prospective tenants should fill them in, while obviously disclosing how many dependants would move in with them.
  • GAH
    GAH Posts: 1,034 Forumite
    Any Person aged 18 and over is a tenant and not a dependant, and they need to be on the tenancy agreement.

    In regards to the referencing, it is whatever the agents/landlords policies are, but even in this case, her son is not working, they will still do any other checks they can, previous landlord, credit check etc.
  • jjlandlord
    jjlandlord Posts: 5,099 Forumite
    edited 16 May 2011 at 10:44AM
    GAH wrote: »
    Any Person aged 18 and over is a tenant and not a dependant, and they need to be on the tenancy agreement.

    What makes you claim that?
    The tenants are whomever the landlord and prospective occupiers agree upon.

    That fact that a person has turned 18 does not magically makes her independent and able to afford rent.
    It seems reasonable that a person over 18, living with her parents, and in full time education be a dependent of her parents. I don't see what would be gained by adding her as a tenant.
    GAH wrote: »
    In regards to the referencing, it is whatever the agents/landlords policies are, but even in this case, her son is not working, they will still do any other checks they can, previous landlord, credit check etc.

    It makes no sense to credit check a 19 year old in full time education living with his parents, because it makes no sense to have him down as a tenant... Unless of course the agent charges for that ;)
  • oceanscape
    oceanscape Posts: 392 Forumite
    jjlandlord wrote: »
    It makes no sense to credit check a 19 year old in full time education living with his parents, because it makes no sense to have him down as a tenant... Unless of course the agent charges for that ;)
    Yes, this is my thought. I fail to understand it, it's not like he will be needing to contribute to the rent. And he won't have any credit history, he's never had any credit! It seems it's just a way for the agent to get an extra £75 off of us for the referencing checks :(
  • GAH
    GAH Posts: 1,034 Forumite
    JJLandlord: I didn't say that they would have to be able to afford the rent.

    All Im simply saying is Over 18 working or not, your named as a tenant.

    And if you were in education then its more than likely a parent would be paying the rent.

    In regards to the referencing as I had said, its upto the discretion of the Landlord/Agent who they wish to reference.

    An 18 year old, could infact have adverse credit history which could put a landlord off.


    Oceanscape: I do sympathsise with you as the charges are so high
  • ViolaLass
    ViolaLass Posts: 5,764 Forumite
    GAH wrote: »
    An 18 year old, could infact have adverse credit history which could put a landlord off.

    Hardly relevant when they would not be the person paying the rent.
  • dibblersan
    dibblersan Posts: 588 Forumite
    GAH wrote: »
    Any Person aged 18 and over is a tenant and not a dependant, and they need to be on the tenancy agreement.
    looking at it from another view. depending on the disability it's possible he can't agree to a contract.

    being 19 and for example in a specialist autism unit he'll could be in that placement until he's 21. full time ed post 16 doesn't mean mentaily or legally capable.
    One of the hardest of all life lessons is this:

    Just because I feel bad doesn’t necessarily mean someone else is doing something wrong.

    Just because I feel good doesn’t necessarily mean what I am doing is right.
  • jjlandlord
    jjlandlord Posts: 5,099 Forumite
    GAH wrote: »
    All Im simply saying is Over 18 working or not, your named as a tenant.

    Understood, and my reply was that this is not true as there is absolutely no rule saying it should be.
    Obviously the landlord can insist on that, his choice, but in the present case that would make practical no sense. Imo, this is the agent trying to boost his fee.
  • GAH
    GAH Posts: 1,034 Forumite
    Viola Lass: it doesn't matter whose paying the rent.

    Its just like a couple wanting to move to a property, and the guy saying, As I am the one paying all the rent, I just want myself to be on the tenancy, it don't work like that.


    As I said in ealry post, its landlords/agents discretion in the case of OP thread.

    But in general, Everyone over 18 working or not should be referenced and be on the Tenancy agreement.
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