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If somebody walks with a limp

Is this not a sign they are in pain or discomfort? Atos health care report states walked 30 meters with no sign of discomfort or pain, but in another section states walked with a limp. what do they class as walking with signs of pain? dragging your self across the floor screaming out in agony?
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  • soolin
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    A limp does not imply they are in pain or discomfort. There are a number of conditions that could give someone a limp, did you notice for instance that John Thaw (Morse) limped and dragged one of his feet and it became very noticeable on some occasions when he was possibly tired.

    My friend had a hip replacement at a very young age and then a replacement when the first went wrong and still limps to this day as it appears that the muscles on one side have caused a slight shortening of the leg.
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  • Jahlove
    Jahlove Posts: 78 Forumite
    what do they class as a sign of walking with discomfort?
  • southantrim3
    southantrim3 Posts: 835 Forumite
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    Severe pain, I think, is the defination they use.
  • My husband has walked with a limp for years, ever since he broke his ankle on both sides and had to have them pinned. But he's not in severe pain - only slight pain on occasions, depending on the weather.

    Severe discomfort is obvious - the person has to stop often, and walks extremely slowly. Or s/he could have to stop after a few steps because s/he was gasping for breath.
  • Unfortunately that's just ATOS for you; because, as someone else pointed out, you can have a limp without experiencing severe pain or discomfort, they discount that as a observed sign for everyone.

    If you have been declared fit for work and are appealing, I would very much advise you to state that because of your condition you are in considerable pain and this causes a limp, as observed by the medical professional (state where in the report it is mentioned) and as such disagree with the previous statement by the medical professional (again reference the report) and perhaps, if it applies to you, point out that you are on medical which is primarily used for pain relief to try and combat this problem but still leaves considerable pain.


    .. My ATOS report was a joke. Besides all the medical things he got wrong, he repeated and then contracted him self several times. The most unbelievable part was when he noted that I had to get up from my seat during the interview and strugged to do so, yet did not appear to be in any pain... Actually I was in quite a lot of pain due to them totally disregarding my request for an afternoon appointment so being stuck in rush hour traffic for over an hour and a half in a sports car for a distance of 15 miles or so (which would usually take 40mins) having got up extra extra early to make sure my meds kicked in in time so I could get ready in time... Urgh. At least my situation is all sorted now.
  • Very difficult question, even more complex case-law answers.

    Pain & discomfort are different things under case law. The law differentiates between pain and discomfort. Pain encompasses a wide range of intensities from mild to severe

    - discomfort defined according to the dictionary as "the condition of being uncomfortable; uneasiness
    - - so someone in pain may not be suffering severe discomfort
    - - but a claimant may suffer severe discomfort without pain e.g. breathlessness
    - - however someone in severe pain does suffer severe discomfort

    - severe discomfort being a lower concomitant of severe pain
    - - doesn't mean "excruciating agony" and ;
    - - severe discomfort includes pain, fatigue and unease of all kinds
    - - the stage at which pain amounts to severe discomfort is left to the judgement of a tribunal
    - - tribunals should take into account discomfort that arise from a subsequent bout of walking following a period of rest
    - - the effects of the discomfort do not set in until later
    - - discomfort does not necessarily become severe at the point at which the claimant is forced to stop walking
    - - he or she may be in severe discomfort whilst walking
    -- a tribunal should consider both the discomfort during walking and any discomfort incurred as a result of walking that occurs after the walking has ceased
    - - severe discomfort has to be brought on by the act of walking and not by any other cause
    - - walking must be outdoors from walking out of doors rather than some other factor
    - - this does not preclude someone who has severe discomfort prior to walking
    - - the tribunal has a duty to establish the extent a claimant can walk without severe discomfort
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  • leedsmodus
    leedsmodus Posts: 162 Forumite
    ''being stuck in a sports car'' if you were that in pain then is a sports car the best solution. forgive me for this but i get pain so i get a vehicle best suited to my needs
  • jetta_wales
    jetta_wales Posts: 2,168 Forumite
    leedsmodus wrote: »
    ''being stuck in a sports car'' if you were that in pain then is a sports car the best solution. forgive me for this but i get pain so i get a vehicle best suited to my needs

    If you can't drive as many people with disabilities can't then you have to take what you're given when it comes to lifts and thus may well not have the luxury of choosing the best car for your needs to be given a lift in.
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  • leedsmodus
    leedsmodus Posts: 162 Forumite
    In that case you get a taxi. There is no point moaning about it when it pretty obvious to most people with half a brain that a sports car is hardly disabled friendly.
    What next? I will try and walk a few miles with severley disabled feet then complain that i was wearing caterpillar boots and they hurt my foot

    the and by the way i am disabled
  • jetta_wales
    jetta_wales Posts: 2,168 Forumite
    leedsmodus wrote: »
    In that case you get a taxi. There is no point moaning about it when it pretty obvious to most people with half a brain that a sports car is hardly disabled friendly.
    What next? I will try and walk a few miles with severley disabled feet then complain that i was wearing caterpillar boots and they hurt my foot

    the and by the way i am disabled

    And how much do you think that hour and a half journey would have cost by taxi? And home again of course.

    Think a little before making sweeping assumptions and criticisms or better still just don't do it at all because there's really just no need for it and nothing to be gained from it.

    Stop digging now.
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