Speed guns

redbull5

mchale wrote: »

Did you receive the NIP within 14days of the offence?? this is important, also have a look at links

its a old story but don't know if loophole has been closed

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/74/74169_christine_spared_by_speedtrap_loophole.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-202833/Christine-Hamilton-cleared-speeding.html

http://www.pepipoo.com/

This loophole has been closed.

If you now cant provide the details of the driver, you will be charged as you are the owner of the vehicle and must of given the relevant driver permission to drive the car.

esmerobbo

CarolAnn49 wrote: »

My husband got a NIP in the post back in February, apparently our car had been filmed the previous week doing 35 in a 30 zone - a very long, straight dual carriageway which we use several times a day, when we drive between our own house and disabled daughter's flat. We couldn't recall this particular occasion, much less who was driving, but we gave them as much info as we were able, requested copy of photo, which was useless for ID purposes. Now he's been summonsed, charged with both speeding and failing to provide driver's name. We told them it had to be either one or the other of us, as we both drive the car, both act as carers for our daughter, but if we can't remember and they can't identify who was driving, just what do they call making a reasonable effort to identify the driver? We have driven for about 60 years between us, and probably more than half a million miles and both have clean licenses. We're both retired, in our 60s, so hardly 'boy racers'! And in the 36 years we've lived here, I don't recall that there was ever an accident on this particular road. So I'm wondering just how much they're trying to extract from our pensions? And what sort of chance do we stand in court?

Its a pity you could not remember the driver at the time as you may well have been offered a speed awareness course rather then a fine and points!

However if you genuinely can not remember and have taken all reasonable actions to try and pinpoint the driver, then you will have to hope you can convince the magistrate. Unfortunately if you don't its 6 points and up to £1000 fine!

esmerobbo

duloch wrote: »

On my way home today I was trabelling along a fairly short road when I saw 2 police officers standing by the road wasnt sure what they were doing to start with but had a look at my speed which was at approx 30 maybe just below. When I looked in rear view mirror, on the opposite side of the road the sign flashed 20 mph as it was heading near a school, I was heading away from it. Anyway I was a bit concered cause I was speeding so I went round the round about and double back my journey, I couldnt see a sign on my side of the road saying 20mph but the police were holding a hand held speed gun. Im slighty worried I have gone over the limit. I usually am very careful of my speed and normally more a slower driver than anything. Does the police do on the spot fines or do I have to wait see if anything turns up in the post. i live in Scotland if that makes any difference.

With a bit of luck they may well have been out training with their new gun!

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/869577-police-unveil-speed-gun-that-never-makes-mistakes

Coblcris

Have you admitted being the driver ? If not then the dual charging is an abuse of process, albeit a usual one from the CPS.
See http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2008/209.html

It is possible for dual charging to be valid if you have admitted who the driver was.
Played carefully you may be able to leverage this into making the the S.172 offence dissappear. Penalties for S.172 are much more severe than those for the simple speeding offence (at the speed alleged in this case) and will have horrific consequences on your insurance premium as well.

However only you have full visibility of the communications that have taken place.