Can I sign on to get support and NI credits if I have left my job (won't get JSA)?

miss_clarabelle

Hi Everyone,
I need a bit of advice about JSA. I recently signed off JSA because after a desperate hunt for a job I managed to get a part time job (over 16 hrs). After 3 days I have realised it’s absolutely awful and I really cannot do it. It’s with real disappointment that I am considering leaving. I really want to be employed and very much wanted this to work out. I appreciate that I won’t be entitled to JSA for 26 weeks whilst I carry on my search for a job that I can do, but can I still sign on and get NI credits (stamps) paid, as well as using the Job Centre (and associated courses that job need to be referred to by the JC) to help with my job search?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
C x

pipscot

miss_clarabelle wrote: »

Hi Everyone,
I need a bit of advice about JSA. I recently signed off JSA because after a desperate hunt for a job I managed to get a part time job (over 16 hrs). After 3 days I have realised it’s absolutely awful and I really cannot do it. It’s with real disappointment that I am considering leaving. I really want to be employed and very much wanted this to work out. I appreciate that I won’t be entitled to JSA for 26 weeks whilst I carry on my search for a job that I can do, but can I still sign on and get NI credits (stamps) paid, as well as using the Job Centre (and associated courses that job need to be referred to by the JC) to help with my job search?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
C x

Is there anyway you could carry on with your job for just a few more weeks? Really 3 days is not enough time to decide whether it's for you or not - and as it's part time you could spend the rest of your time looking for a more suitable job.

It's much easier to find work if you are already employed - it's very difficult to find work when you are unemployed (and you've already done the difficult part!).

I don't know your circumstances or anything about the job - but the harsh reality of life is that many people are stuck doing jobs they hate - please think long and hard before deciding to leave your job.

GotToChange

You may find that you are threatened with a sanction for leaving your job voluntarily..... (I know, it really sucks) and have some explaining to do and then have to hope that whoever makes the decisions is in a good mood (I'm not sure about that one, there may be some box-ticking exercise they have to do). The awful thing is that you may find yourself stuck in the job with the only way out (and having any money) is to get another one.
(It happened to me last year, although I stuck the job out as it was temporary - although 6 weeks turned in to 6 months, ending on Christmas Eve when they promised it would be in the NY.) I remember making the call to the JCP and being told that I effectively had made my bed and had to lie in it.

dugdale_2

Could you not stick at the job for another three weeks as you would then fall into the "employment on trial" category.

Employment on Trial

Normally if you leave a job voluntarily, without good cause, you lose entitlement to benefit. Employment on Trial allows you to leave a job and claim Jobseekers Allowance without the reason for leaving affecting your entitlement to benefit.
You must have been in the job:

• for at least four weeks and one day
• must have left before you complete 13 weeks
• must have worked for more than 16 hours in each complete week

If you are dismissed or leave the job because of misconduct you might still lose benefit.
To find out more about Employment on Trial, please contact your local Jobcentre Plus office

gillianne

yes u can still claim ur ni credits and u wont b stopped job seekers for 26 weeks i worked as a benefits adviser so i no what im talkin about so make ur claim explain that u couldnt do the job and u will only lose a few weeks benefit. also if u r in reciept of child benefit ur ni credits are covered by this x

dookar

gillianne wrote: »

yes u can still claim ur ni credits and u wont b stopped job seekers for 26 weeks i worked as a benefits adviser so i no what im talkin about so make ur claim explain that u couldnt do the job and u will only lose a few weeks benefit.

As a former benefits adviser you should recognise how irresponsible your post is.

dookar

workingforacrook wrote: »

would i be entitled to sign on . and get any benefit , if i leave the job

Impossible to say about entitlement without knowing about work history, capital, partner etc

But you've said nothing that would preclude a claim

HappyMJ

Leaving a job after 3 days as it was "absolutely awful and I really cannot do it" sounds to me like a reasonable reason to leave a job. I don't think you should be sanctioned and if you are I would appeal it.

dookar

HappyMJ wrote: »

Leaving a job after 3 days as it was "absolutely awful and I really cannot do it" sounds to me like a reasonable reason to leave a job. I don't think you should be sanctioned and if you are I would appeal it.

It's not a question of what's reasonable.

HappyMJ

dookar wrote: »

It's not a question of what's reasonable.

Isn't it? OK that's being pedantic it's either reason or leaving a job "without good cause" as quoted by yourself. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/RedundancyAndLeavingYourJob/DG_10026688

Your benefits if you resign

If you have voluntarily quit without good reason, your Jobcentre Plus can delay your Jobseeker's Allowance. If you are claiming constructive dismissal, make sure they know. If you can't claim Jobseeker's Allowance, you may still be able to claim a hardship payment, which is a reduced amount of Jobseeker's Allowance.

I've left many jobs but always with a good cause or a reasonable reason and it's very similar to the OP's predicament as in I've found I wasn't up to the standard an employer was expecting or even once after a year at it I was just sick of the job. Still got benefits.

dookar

HappyMJ wrote: »

Isn't it? OK that's being pedantic it's either reason or leaving a job "without good cause" as quoted by yourself. http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Employment/RedundancyAndLeavingYourJob/DG_10026688

Just cause, not good cause. I've never quoted that