Jailbreaking things

bob_man_uk

it may be worth going to have a word with the good folk at your local market, the phone shops that offer phone unlocking for £10 or so, ask them if they can actually unlock it permanently or if when you upgrade the OS it will re-lock.

macman

The phone is/was the property of your 'friend'. If she gives it to you then it becomes your property. It was not stolen, nor does her being in breach of contract make it revert to Voda. It became her property from day one of her contract.
Her contract requires her to pay £x per month for y months. What she does with the handset is entirely her own business.
Of course this doesn't prevent Voda cutting off their service to that handset.

abby1234519

macman wrote: »

The phone is/was the property of your 'friend'. If she gives it to you then it becomes your property. It was not stolen, nor does her being in breach of contract make it revert to Voda. It became her property from day one of her contract.
Her contract requires her to pay £x per month for y months. What she does with the handset is entirely her own business.
Of course this doesn't prevent Voda cutting off their service to that handset.

But the fact that I use an 02 sim wouldn't matter if they cut their service am I right? Or do you mean something else :S

I went onto the Vodafone forum and found this reply to a post

"
[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]You will be unable to unlock your iphone if it is part of a subsidy on a contract and it will remain locked to Vodafone until the end of the contract.[/FONT]
If you have purchased the iphone on PAYG paying the full price without a subsidy, you will have no problem getting the handset unlocked.
There is no reason for Vodafone to heavily subside the phone for it to be used on a different network."

Hammyman

abby1234519 wrote: »

To add to that, I went through the wizard and it doesn't really help me in working out whether I can update the IOS from 4.1.0 or not so I am just going to leave it. I've gont onto Cydia and updated Ultrasnow and I have no idea why but my iphone seems to be running faster

Quite simply, in order to jailbreak, they basically write a customised version of the operating system to the phone. Some versions are written better than others but ALL versions of jailbroken firmware are SLOWER than the unaltered iOS from Apple. The fastest one of the jailbroken firmwares is around 25% slower than the genuine unaltered iOS as you load it without spending time disabling stuff. This is because of daemons run to allow the jailbreak plus launcher daemons mainly, coupled with the fact the code written to do it isn't particularly well written from a performance point of view..

Here's a quick post on a forum of a guy who ran a jailbroken phone and why he no longer does.

sevenalive&#64 wrote: »

I was jailbroken for about 6 months, 3 of those months I had Winterboard. I restored my 3GS when the 4.3.3 came out and decided not to jailbreak. So far I've been fighting the urge. My device is faster and I don't need to reboot.
The last 3 months I ran mobilesubstrate - biggest slowdown, openSSH. Activator, rotation inhibitor (just the toggle without sbsettings installed), and AppQuit activators. I didn't bother with winterboard because it's also slow even with bundles and summerboard off. Instead I manually themed everything. It took a good amount of time at first. Since I renamed and organized the images in my hdd, a simple copy and paste and the UI and icons were glasklart. It just became a nuisance when apps update because I would need to run AppLinks, ssh and copy/paste, and respring.
I also had a few Cydis apps like AppLinks, which helped me manually theme.
Most people will agree my JB was minimal, I could of gotten rid of activator but I liked AppQuit and easy rotation lock. If I don't run activator I would use proswitcher instead.
I would say without mobile substrate and activator, there would be a big improvement and I am thinking of running just that so I can have my custom icons back and uremote. Activator runs all the time and I think that was also a big problem.
I know JB fanboys will say MobileSubstrate is fine and their phone isn't slower, it's not true. I realized how much faster the vanilla iOS compared to JB. I also may have this wrong, but the JB patches the kernel and runs a daemon, I think it slows the phone a bit too, especially at boot.
I tried to keep it minimal and closed apps when down and yet my phone would hesitate and stutter when opening folders, pages or the taskswitcher.
Most JB apps are made by teenagers, the code quality is not that great. There are tons of improvements that could be done. MobileSubstrate is a cluster!!!! that could use a whole rewrite to become faster.
I lived for almost 1.5 years without being jailbroken and could do it again. If there is a benchmarking tool in the AppStore I could compare stock, fresh JB no packages, and just mobile substrate. Then there would be hard evidence. The speed difference is about 30% and settings opens in 1 second compared to 6 with just 2 extra options added.

Kingsd316

Simple answer is to get a vodafone PAYG sim card, shove it in the phone, make a chargeable call, then use the online unlocking form on vodafones website, give them your PAYG number and the phones IMEI number and it will be unlocked for free, then restore the Phone and use the official firmware

paddyrg

Am I the only one to see this as 'receiving stolen goods'? I would not be in the least surprised if Vodafone put the IMEI on the UK/European block lists and make the phone into a brick across all networks.

kwikbreaks

paddyrg wrote: »

Am I the only one to see this as 'receiving stolen goods'?

Probably not. There is no limit to the number of people who can be wrong on any subject.

abby1234519

paddyrg wrote: »

Am I the only one to see this as 'receiving stolen goods'? I would not be in the least surprised if Vodafone put the IMEI on the UK/European block lists and make the phone into a brick across all networks.

It has been about a year though...as in I've had no problems for a year

I myself questioned whether it was recieving stolen goods, not much I could do finding out it was a "contract" phone a few months after Iwas given it.

I'll leave it as it is now, I think I probably will get a NEW paygo iphone at some point, I've been told if I pass next semester with a high 2:1 I might be a lucky girl and get one bought for me (moneysaying all the way). Then I will restore it to its original state. I wouldn't feel happy selling it on unless I knew the next person wasn't going to be messed about by Vodafone. But I guess people sell phones on all the time?

Its running faster but I think it might also be because I turned custom backgrounds off. Load up when turning it on is a bit slow as per usual