Debt Recovery Plus Ltd

Oopsadaisy

mcworries wrote: »

Has anyone any advice as to what I should do now?

Yes....nothing [other than having a nice cup of tea and moving on with your life].

Sir_Roger_deLodger

MichaelCR wrote: »

NO NO NO NO !

Take a deep breath, And firstly, Don't Panic.

These clowns are clearing lying through there teeth to try and trick you into paying.

Firstly, Parkforce sound to me like a private firm, So a parking fine from them is mearly an invoice, Under no circumstances are you obliged to pay them a single penny.

Private Parking Company's, Have absolutely no authority, Like i said, a 'fine' from one, Is an invoice, Best place for it is the shredder of course.

Isn't it worrying that the DVLA are more than happy to provide your details to a private firm.

NOW,

For the Debt Collection Agency,

I have said this over and over again on these forums, They have no power, Or any authority.

Heres some solid advice for you regarding the Debt collectors.

Don't Pay.

Firstly, If you get a letter from any kind of debt collection etc, Simply Return the Letter to sender, Placing the following on the front of the letter envelope.

' I do not recognize you, I do not understand your intent. I do not have an international treaty with you. No assured value, No liability. '

And also write on the letter several times, ' No Contract, Return to sender '

By writing this on the letter (Preferably on a sticky label placed over the addressee window on the letter), You are saying the following,

- I do not Recognize you
- I do not understand your intent
- We have no contract
- We have no international Treaty
- No liability accepted
- No assured value.

Remember, that "debt" collection agencies have bought the so called "debt" and therefore it is paid. They are third party interlopers who have no contract with you. They have stupidly paid your debt for you and now are clutching at straws, Do not feed the system, Do not feed the private corporations that cause nothing but misery for many people, Using un-lawful methods.

You have no contract with any third party debt collection agency, You have no debt with them, Regardless of what you are told.

If you get threats from door step collectors,

If you ever do get a visit from them,

Place the following on your front gate or any entrance to your property.

''NOTICE

REMOVAL OF IMPLIED RIGHT OF ACCESS

Notice to agent is notice to principal, Notice to principal is notice to agent.

I hereby give notice that the implied right of access to this property has been removed in respect of the following

Any Employee, Agent, Principal or any other PERSONS acting on behalf of the CORPORATE COURTS, LOCAL COUNCIL, PRIVATE CORPORATION, PUBLIC AGENCY or GOVERNMENT AGENCY.

ANY TRANSGRESSION OF THIS NOTICE WITHOUT our pre written signed consent may result in a fine of £10,000 for the Man, Woman and Corporation separately.

By stepping beyond this point you agree to the terms and conditions above.

24HR CCTV in operation.''

This will most certainly keep them away.

KNOW YOUR RIGHTS !

PEACE.

Or you could just ignore them. Same result, much less hassle.

island2

Take your choice of ignoring it, or else writing back saying that the company needs to take the matter up with the driver at the time.

asbokid

island2 wrote: »

writing back saying that the company needs to take the matter up with the driver at the time.

Contact the PPC? Strange "advice" which you are giving to others..

The only answer is IGNORE! Full stop!

profusia

HO87 wrote: »

The problem with the Freeman-on-the-land approach is that DCA's will completely ignore it because it rejects the legal basis under which they operate (I do understand the arguments). There is another, somewhat briefer way to tackle them:

<Company Address>
<Street Name>
<Town/City>
<County>
<Postcode>

Ref: <Reference>

Dear Sirs

I refer to your letter of <date>.

I do not acknowledge any debt to your company and will not, under any circumstances make any payment in the absence of a court judgement. Please issue proceedings within ten days or I will regard the matter as closed.

Yours faithfully

<insert name - not signature>

[Then, in smaller font size]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Please note:[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]1. The implied, unconditional and general licence at Common Law that extends to members of the public to call at this address for such everyday purposes as the delivery and collection of mail; asking directions and negotiating business etc insofar as it relates to your company, employees, contractors, agents and assigns is hereby withdrawn with immediate effect and in its entirety.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]2. Should any of your employees, contractors or agents call at this address then they will be deemed to be trespassers and may therefore be exposed to the use of force sufficient to secure their removal from the premises. In particular it should be noted that should any of your employees, contractors, agents or assigns call at this address in the face of the withdrawal of this licence then such actions may be deemed to demonstrate a degree of recklessness or indifference that may render them liable to proceedings for breach of the peace and harassment. For the sake of clarity, neither your staff, contractors, agents or assigns are welcome at this address at any time under any circumstances.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]3. With immediate effect handling and responding to any further correspondence from you will be charged at the normal hourly rate of £<hourly rate> and will also incur a standard administration charge of £<standard rate> per letter. The receipt of telephone calls/SMS texts will incur a charge of £<standard rate> per call/text. Payment of all charges is due upon receipt of invoice. No statements or reminders will be provided and in the event of non-payment the right to issue proceedings without recourse to you is reserved. The receipt of any further letter from yourselves will be deemed to be full acceptance of these terms.[/FONT]

Sorry to be pedantic but I feel this is an important point. The above passage refers to "your debt". In fact it is only an alleged debt. You should NEVER refer to it as a debt as this could be construed as accepting that you owe them money. In fact it is highly unlikely that you owe them anything since (I assume) there was never any contract or anything agreed on your part.

I'm being chased by Debt Recovery Plus Ltd for an alleged "debt", which I totally dispute, to CP PLUS LTD for what they claim was motorway service parking. I'm trying to find out if Debt Recovery Plus Ltd has any direct connection to CP PLUS LTD. Since they have a different name and both purport to be limited companies my expectation is that even if they are in someway directly connected they are seperate legal entities at law. Therefore CP PLUS LTD may well have breached my rights of privacy AND libelled me by giving my personal details to Debt Recovery Plus Ltd and claiming that I owe them money when in fact I do not. Anyone out there with any relevant views/experience on this?

Kite2010

CP Plus would probably be covered as they would say in their letters something like "failure to pay may lead to this debt being passed onto a debt collection agency"

give_them_FA

asbokid wrote: »

Contact the PPC? Strange "advice" which you are giving to others..

The only answer is IGNORE! Full stop!

Well, whilst ignore is best for beginners, more advanced strategies may involve contacting the PPC; but only if you are 100% aware that you aren't going to pay them no matter what and that anything they say will be a lie. Then you can start to have fun; but don't waste money on stamps, just write "Freepost" on the envelope and make them pay excess postage.

vax2002

Someone on this site needs to get that info changed about writing to PPC, it is probably the worst advice on any forum.

give_them_FA

No, it's not the worst, Vax, there was a post on another thread by a particularly thick (and aptly named) newbie saying that the only way out was to pay up! I'm satisfied he wasn't a car park company troll, merely posting about something he knew nothing about.

I think we've all made it clear that the safest and most effective method for anyone who isn't sure is to ignore all correspondence and wait for it to stop.

However, for more advanced users, taking control of the correspondence can reap rich rewards. I did write to a certain company telling them to send me no more threatening letters as I wasn't the driver and wasn't responsible.

When they ignored me and carried on, it did indeed go to Court. Except that they were the defendants and paid me substantial damages for unlawful harassment.

You see, I had a case to take to Court and they didn't. If you have the bottle, try it.

Coupon-mad

give_them_FA wrote: »

When they ignored me and carried on, it did indeed go to Court. Except that they were the defendants and paid me substantial damages for unlawful harassment.

You see, I had a case to take to Court and they didn't. If you have the bottle, try it.

Ooooh, tell us more. Did you do this via Small Claims and just put a figure on it under £5000? Did they let a judge decide? Did you include the retailer/landowner? Interesting and certainly possible.