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Combi Boiler or Conventional?

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  • Canucklehead
    Canucklehead Posts: 6,254 Forumite
    Go with the normal condensing boiler as suggested.

    Ozskin/Plumb1 You still need good mains pressure/volume to run an unvented cyl though don't you?

    Corgi Guy.
    Ask to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)
  • plumb1_2
    plumb1_2 Posts: 4,395 Forumite
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    Go with the normal condensing boiler as suggested.

    Ozskin/Plumb1 You still need good mains pressure/volume to run an unvented cyl though don't you?

    Corgi Guy.

    Less than a combi;) CG, and a lower gas rate, and you always have the backup of having hot water(immersion heater) if your boiler fails.

    We all have our favourates:cool:
  • jemball
    jemball Posts: 88 Forumite
    I conclude that:

    Combis are most suitable for small flats as part of a new installation.
    Combis can be unreliable and run the heating system at a high pressure.
    Combi boilers have a shorter life spanthan conventional ones.
    Combis are simpler to install hence their possible pushing by some companies.

    I still don't understand why some combis don't have a separate HW storage tank (say 1/3 of the normal cylinder) which could fit unobtrusively into most houses.

    And I don't know why Ozkin advised an external pressure vessel for the unvented cylinder?

    Anyway, I thank everyone for their most helpful advice which has led us to decide to have a new conventional boiler with an unvented cylinder in the roof.
  • tawnyowls
    tawnyowls Posts: 1,784 Forumite
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    Well, I wouldn't entirely agree, and apologies for probably confusing you all over again! I had a Potterton combi in a 3-bed semi - granted, there were only 2 of us in the house, but it ran all the radiators and the hot water. It was still going strong 8 years later when we moved, having never been serviced and had a single visit from a repair man (who cleaned some gunk out and charged 200 quid for 20 mins work, but still a lot cheaper than a repair contract). If the houses we've since had hadn't already had systems installed, I would have chosen the combi again - the hot water was always piping hot, and we managed to run two showers together or turn on a hot/cold tap without freezing/scalding the person showering, and the electricity bills were lower than when we'd had the big cylinder. Plus, we put a tiny radiator into the airing cupboard once the cylinder was ripped out, which gave us loads of hanging space for drying clothes.
  • Canucklehead
    Canucklehead Posts: 6,254 Forumite
    Hi This might help explain about the expansion vessel............
    http://www.plumbingpages.com/featurepages/HWdpsamazon2.cfm

    Good decision ..Boiler/cylinder.

    Corgi Guy.
    Ask to see CIPHE (Chartered Institute of Plumbing & Heating Engineering)
  • ozskin
    ozskin Posts: 451 Forumite
    Dear Jemball, canucklehead has beaten me to it. A seperate vessel will not require the servicing of an internal, or calling a plumber to sort out any probs to repressure the system. Not seen this new tank before, but its not a big job to have an externally vessel, maybee an extra couple of hours work. but you do see a seperate small tank. Heres to happy power showering
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