British Army Pay Codes

Following on from my investigations regarding my partners ex's false income claims. I have now obtained some juicy bank statements which i am now going through and identifying income. before forwarding them on to the CSA.
I need help from any ex or serving forces people out there. On the bank statements while the ex was still serving there are BGC payments detailed as SUB ACCT HMG 2193. Can any body help me identify what these may be, or give me help to find a list of codes that will identify this. Thanks
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  • fannyanna
    fannyanna Posts: 2,622 Forumite
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    How on earth does someone manage to get hold of their exes bank statements?

    Have you tried googling the wording?
  • insurgentes
    insurgentes Posts: 58 Forumite
    fannyanna wrote: »
    How on earth does someone manage to get hold of their exes bank statements?

    Have you tried googling the wording?

    Tried google and couldn't find anything The statements are all legally obtained. He was using an old joint account to pay himself. My partners name was still on it. So we requested them. looks to me like a £20.00 a week assessment should have be £120.00 a week. What an idiot. i feel an appeal coming on.
  • DX2
    DX2 Posts: 8,275 Forumite
    You might have been better posting this query in the forces section.

    Good Luck.
    *SIGH*
    :D
  • Hi

    I'm ex-raf administrator, and from memory thats wages. I have just checked some old bank statement and my wages appeared as HMG 3608 - BGC is probably (Bank, Giro Credit).

    The number may be different as I was RAF, but they all get paid out of a central place in Glasgow.

    Hope this helps, but the numbers are probably the accounting reference, don't think it would prove what type of payment.

    Regards
  • Blob
    Blob Posts: 1,011 Forumite
    Please remember that the CSA lost its fight with the MOD on how much it can take from a service person. It is covered in Queens Reg's the forces law book.

    If memory serves it went to the High Court or even the House of Lords, not sure, but they got hammered on this point!
  • Blob wrote: »
    Please remember that the CSA lost its fight with the MOD on how much it can take from a service person. It is covered in Queens Reg's the forces law book.

    If memory serves it went to the High Court or even the House of Lords, not sure, but they got hammered on this point!

    I think that the only real difference is that it's classed as a 'Deduction from Earnings Request', rather than a 'Deduction from Earnings Order', and technically the MoD could refuse to take the money from the NRP's wages, but I've never seen this happen. The maintenance amounts are the same, and the CSA can still set arrears plus regular maintenance to 40%, whether or not the MoD will collect that amount is another matter, but like I said I've never seen them *not* take what the CSA request.
  • Fission
    Fission Posts: 225 Forumite
    Blob wrote: »
    Please remember that the CSA lost its fight with the MOD on how much it can take from a service person. It is covered in Queens Reg's the forces law book. If memory serves it went to the High Court or even the House of Lords, not sure, but they got hammered on this point!

    That only affected how much can be collected by deduction order sent to the forces paymaster. Not on how much the maintenance should be in the first place. It can be enforced via the courts if it isn't paid.
  • insurgentes
    insurgentes Posts: 58 Forumite
    Fission wrote: »
    That only affected how much can be collected by deduction order sent to the forces paymaster. Not on how much the maintenance should be in the first place. It can be enforced via the courts if it isn't paid.

    Am i right that 22 year Army pension is taxable income that can be used in an assessment as income. My partners ex does have a full time salaried job too. Therefore i believe that both these incomes are used in an assessment. although i do appreciate that a deduction of earnings cannot be set against the pension with the paymaster, it can be set against his employer for the full assessment amount. if he chooses not to pay. Correct me please if i am wrong.
  • insurgentes
    insurgentes Posts: 58 Forumite
    DosyDaisy wrote: »
    Hi

    I'm ex-raf administrator, and from memory thats wages. I have just checked some old bank statement and my wages appeared as HMG 3608 - BGC is probably (Bank, Giro Credit).

    The number may be different as I was RAF, but they all get paid out of a central place in Glasgow.

    Hope this helps, but the numbers are probably the accounting reference, don't think it would prove what type of payment.

    Regards

    Thanks, That's what i thought.
  • Fission
    Fission Posts: 225 Forumite
    Am i right that 22 year Army pension is taxable income that can be used in an assessment as income.

    Yes.
    My partners ex does have a full time salaried job too. Therefore i believe that both these incomes are used in an assessment. although i do appreciate that a deduction of earnings cannot be set against the pension with the paymaster, it can be set against his employer for the full assessment amount. if he chooses not to pay. Correct me please if i am wrong.

    In principle you're right though the order might not be capable of taking 100% due to the protected earning rule. It depends on the ratio of the assessment to the income in that employment.
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