New Logmaker !

moo2moo

I got one of the wet brick style for x-mas. Spent most of x-mas day making bricks and filled the green house but I've yet to put one on the fire, they are still too wet. It was very therapeutic though!

geordie_joe

Hapless wrote: »

Wood is carbon neutral, it only emits what it absorbs.

In that case isn't everything? Other fuels only release what they have absorbed.

Poppycat

Thats correct wood is carbon neutral as the trees grow they absorb carbon in the air, when they burn they release carbon.

Hapless_2

geordie_joe wrote: »

In that case isn't everything? Other fuels only release what they have absorbed.

Peat bogs absorb far more carbon than woodlands but digging and burning peat destroys the ecosystem of the bog therefore less carbon can be absorbed.

geordie_joe

Poppycat wrote: »

Thats correct wood is carbon neutral as the trees grow they absorb carbon in the air, when they burn they release carbon.

Yes but that is the same with coal and oil the only difference is the time scale. Coal and oil release carbon that was sucked out of the atmosphere millions of years ago and for trees it has been sucked out more recently.

geordie_joe

Hapless wrote: »

Peat bogs absorb far more carbon than woodlands but digging and burning peat destroys the ecosystem of the bog therefore less carbon can be absorbed.

But if you burn the peat then you are just putting back carbon that it sucked out of the atmosphere.

Your original point was

"Wood is carbon neutral, it only emits what it absorbs."

If that is true then peat is carbon neutral because it to only emits what it absorbed.

Poppycat

Found this about peat

"Already in 1997 (IMCG Newsletter 3: 13 – 17) we discussed in depth the various sophisms used by the peat industry to classify peat as a renewable resource. In that analysis (“Peat and the art of energy tax evasion”), we concluded: “The arguments presented to classify peat as a biomass and a renewable resource are insinuative, inconsistent, and scientifically wrong. Deliberate use of such ‘pseudo-science’ to influence EU energy taxation policy is not a contribution to a factual discussion, but a cynical attempt to evade taxes.”"

http://www.imcg.net/imcgnl/nl0104/kap12.htm

Hapless_2

geordie_joe wrote: »

But if you burn the peat then you are just putting back carbon that it sucked out of the atmosphere.

Your original point was

"Wood is carbon neutral, it only emits what it absorbs."

If that is true then peat is carbon neutral because it to only emits what it absorbed.

No, because to get to the peat you have to dig down through the peat bog and drain them, this kills of an entire carbon absorbing eco-system, plants and the like. This is completely different to coppicing decidous woodland where the trees regrow.

geordie_joe

Hapless wrote: »

No, because to get to the peat you have to dig down through the peat bog and drain them, this kills of an entire carbon absorbing eco-system, plants and the like. This is completely different to coppicing decidous woodland where the trees regrow.

That's not what you said, you said "Wood is carbon neutral, it only emits what it absorbs" And I pointed out that everything does that.

Now you are saying wood is carbon neutral because when you cut a piece off a tree and burn it the rest of the tree carries on growing.?

tarranty

You're right, the wet paper one is better, less ash but a whole lot of hassle. The cheapest we've found is on www.greenstamp.co.uk and although there's a hssle in drying them seeing your freshly delivered load of logs that cost over £100 go down more slowly makes it worth it. Make your logs in the summer, they dry fast in hot weather.