Another ConDem balls up £2bn

1984ReturnsForReal_2

ChiefGrasscutter wrote: »

Actually doing work for the MOD as a private firm can be terribly demoralising.
Endless changes and you end up not bothering because you know the latest design version that you are struggling over is going to be revised/changed/ignored/abandoned. You start to dread these tenders - which go on for years and years and look forward to getting back onto the standard fare of normal commercial work.
I guess our executives at group level couldn't really tell the MOD where to go and that actually we had better things to spend our time on than their wretched projects.

I bet you wish for someone to say "we just want ships to take planes (that can preferably do VTAL) & loads of bombs & missiles & helicopters & air & sea defense & docking submarines with the capability of circling the globe & enough provision for six months"

mbga9pgf

Who said they were axeing pilots? I can see a lot of out of date engineers and Navigators getting the chop, Trance 1 Redundancy didnt have a single Pilot in the lists.

They are already accepting they are going to be short once the GLOBAL airline market picks up. The 170 that got chopped from training have actually filled places that would have been taken by our experience that would have walked, costing the mil a fortune.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

mbga9pgf wrote: »

Who said they were axeing pilots?

Ahhhhhhhh Let me think......... The Government?


If in doubt ask the pilots!

There goes another one.........

Really2

So the point here looks like labour did not rack up any debt and all their contracts were great fulfilled on time and never went over budget and never wasted money.

And people say people are seeing no wrong in the coalition?

I presume everyone would still be saying the same if labour were in but I do not rember the same people saying the same on the £12.7bn IT system fiasco.

mbga9pgf

1984ReturnsForReal wrote: »

Ahhhhhhhh Let me think......... The Government?


If in doubt ask the pilots!

There goes another one.........

Erm, I am a Pilot. In the Services. I think I should know...

Rochdale_Pioneers

All this proves is that the alleged Labour mismanagement of MoD contracts is actually MoD mismanagement. The Tories had their own problems with procurement and they continue after every change of government.

The point has already been made and needs to be reiterated - the carriers are being redesigned and rebuilt to have a catapult deck to take standard marine versions of the F35 rather than the VTOL version. The Tories decided to carry on the contract and then changed it - and that means cost.

The real scandal here isn't that we're building carriers that we need, its that we scrapped the carrier we need now. Its a ludicrous argument being made by Fox that we needed a carrier in January, we need two in 2020 but we have no need of them this decade. 30 years ago the Tories scrapped our carrier fleet as part of a budget cut and its only luck that we hadn't completed the sale to Australia before Galtieri invaded the Falklands. Here we go again.....

mbga9pgf

To be fair, we are maintaining Libya without difficulty by launching from local air bases. As for the FI, the argies dont have the capability, or the will, to get their @rses wiped again over an oil-less rock.

Orpheo

25% of trainee pilots to be axed.

Rochdale_Pioneers

mbga9pgf wrote: »

To be fair, we are maintaining Libya without difficulty by launching from local air bases. As for the FI, the argies dont have the capability, or the will, to get their @rses wiped again over an oil-less rock.

The water around there isn't oil-less is it? Don't tell the oil companies drilling for the stuff - my dad has made a killing betting on their share prices.

mbga9pgf

Yeah, and have a look at Desire Petroleums share price. The last well they dug struck salt water.