Daughters horse hit a car

brighthair

Flyboy152 wrote: »

How very upstanding and responsible of you. Much like the self-important arrogant !!!!!! we get from the equestrians around here.

hey, horse riders drive too - we're not all snobs! I work for the NHS, have driven since I was 17, and ridden since I was 5. I've never had a car accident, or an accident on the road with my horse
The horse is insured, as is my car, and I also have a clean license
I think that says I'm a pretty careful driver and rider. But then I do drive round country lanes expecting a cyclist/rider/walker round every bend

Lum

Here's an example of the point I made, from a video I did nearly a year ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_uA59FtVHw#t=1m35s

Note how on the inside of that corner is a driveway. As it happens I have to stop for an oncoming car but could just have easily stopped because someone was exiting that driveway. That road is a 60 limit but I don't get anywhere near that (even on the long straight sections towards the end of the video I'm only doing 35-40.

yorkie2

ROY47 wrote: »

am I missing something here ?

horse kicks car ,dents it and the question is why should we pay for repairs ??

next time keep horse in field where they belong

that's my view on it .

How about next time, overtake in accordance with the Highway Code?
Or do you think that the Highway Code does not apply to you?

rev229 wrote: »

My bug bear is that they don't even have road tax ...

No such thing as road tax, I'll assume you are talking about VED, in which case do you have the same complaint about low emission cars?

skiddlydiddly wrote: »

Horses that are incapable of being kept in control and passed by traffic should be kept away from the roads altogether.Are we all supposed to stay behind every horse just in case its a crazy one(pun hahahah) and let the traffic just keep building up behind it until they turn off?If not then the owners are willingly taking a hazard onto the road and are a danger to everyone else.

Still, at least they get their nice little trot, eh?

You must only overtake when it is safe to do so, in accordance with the Highway Code. If that means waiting, so be it.

Your post sounds like you have more regard for minimising delay than for safety, is that a correct interpretation? If so that says a lot about you, and suggests you are "a danger to everyone else" yourself. If not, I suggest you re-consider your wording so as not to give that impression.

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Maybe the driver couldn't give more space?

If there is insufficient space to overtake in accordance with the Highway Code, then don't overtake. Is it really that difficult to comprehend that simple concept?

skiddlydiddly

yorkie2 wrote: »

You must only overtake when it is safe to do so, in accordance with the Highway Code. If that means waiting, so be it.

Your post sounds like you have more regard for minimising delay than for safety, is that a correct interpretation? If so that says a lot about you, and suggests you are "a danger to everyone else" yourself. If not, I suggest you re-consider your wording so as not to give that impression.

Yes, delay should be minimised, roads are afterall the arteries of the country and keep the economy going.I also think people should have respect for riders safety but that also includes the riders themselves.If a road is too narrow for vehicles to safely pass you, don't go down it in the 1st place similar to width restrictions placed on some roads forbidding vehicles wider than that to go down them.

Flyboy152

brighthair wrote: »

hey, horse riders drive too - we're not all snobs! I work for the NHS, have driven since I was 17, and ridden since I was 5. I've never had a car accident, or an accident on the road with my horse
The horse is insured, as is my car, and I also have a clean license
I think that says I'm a pretty careful driver and rider. But then I do drive round country lanes expecting a cyclist/rider/walker round every bend

Around here, a vast majority of those who ride horses also are members of the hunt. They see us ordinary folk as something that they wipe off the bottom of their shoes. They blame us for spoiling their fun; those are the ones who no longer hunt. Those who do (illegally), are even worse. They think they are above the law; but what can you expect from a bunch of over-privileged snobs, who treat the village residents as their own personal serfs. Especially when they have the apparent protection and support of the local Chief Superintendent.

cyclonebri1

yorkie2 wrote: »

How about next time, overtake in accordance with the Highway Code?
Or do you think that the Highway Code does not apply to you?


No such thing as road tax, I'll assume you are talking about VED, in which case do you have the same complaint about low emission cars?



You must only overtake when it is safe to do so, in accordance with the Highway Code. If that means waiting, so be it.

Your post sounds like you have more regard for minimising delay than for safety, is that a correct interpretation? If so that says a lot about you, and suggests you are "a danger to everyone else" yourself. If not, I suggest you re-consider your wording so as not to give that impression.


If there is insufficient space to overtake in accordance with the Highway Code, then don't overtake. Is it really that difficult to comprehend that simple concept?

Ok, smart !!!! define how much space and lets think country lanes here not A roads. Just how wide is a horse when it's broadside accross the road, comprendez?
You also fail to comprehend that there's a world of difference between overtaking and passing, I thought someone as pedantic as you would realise that.

yorkie2

skiddlydiddly wrote: »

Yes, delay should be minimised, roads are afterall the arteries of the country and keep the economy going.

Is that an admission you put speed over safety?

skiddlydiddly wrote: »

I also think people should have respect for riders safety but that also includes the riders themselves.If a road is too narrow for vehicles to safely pass you, don't go down it in the 1st place similar to width restrictions placed on some roads forbidding vehicles wider than that to go down them.

If the road is not wide enough for horses, it's not wide enough for cars

cyclonebri1 wrote: »

Ok, smart !!!! define how much space and lets think country lanes here not A roads. Just how wide is a horse when it's broadside accross the road, comprendez?
You also fail to comprehend that there's a world of difference between overtaking and passing, I thought someone as pedantic as you would realise that.

I refer you to the Highway Code.

I note your post has 3 messages of 'thanks'; makes a mockery of the thanks system, which may as well not exist!

asbokid

Lum wrote: »

Here's an example of the point I made, from a video I did nearly a year ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_uA59FtVHw#t=1m35s

Note how on the inside of that corner is a driveway. As it happens I have to stop for an oncoming car but could just have easily stopped because someone was exiting that driveway. That road is a 60 limit but I don't get anywhere near that (even on the long straight sections towards the end of the video I'm only doing 35-40.

It's interesting that one of the commenters knew that Monmouthshire is famous for its dogging venues.

http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/dogging/locations/monmouthshire-dogging.html

Glamorgan is supposed to be good as well. I've only really tried the ones in the Cardiff area. The one in Barry was certainly busy but disappointing. The wife and I couldn't get a good view all night.

Lum

Erm, ok, thanks for that..

skiddlydiddly

yorkie2 wrote: »

Is that an admission you put speed over safety?

No, but some people will read what they want into things.I do however think that keeping roads moving is more important than someone out for a leisurely ride on their horse.

If the road is not wide enough for horses, it's not wide enough for cars

I presume you mean it wouldn't be wide enough for a car to pass another on it?If so then the car in front wouldn't be plodding along at a few mph, nor would it get unsettled when it was eventually passed.