Have I been caught speeding or not?

Nimeth

I'm a little unsure whether I have been caught speeding or not. Basically:

-It was on a 60mph limit wide lane single carriageway (A46)
-The camera in question was a mobile speed camera van (facing the opposite direction I was going)
-I'm fairly sure I wasn't doing more than 65, absolutely positive it wasn't more than 70.
-I was overtaking at the time I passed the speed camera van as two cars in front of me were doing around 35-40 mph. I also made sure to overtake only when the road markings indicating that I could.

I know the cameras in the vans don't flash, so I have no idea if I'll be getting a fine through the post or not! How much leeway to speed cameras allow and does the fact that I was overtaking slow moving vehicles (yes, it was safe to do so, I checked before I overtook) make any difference?

If I do get a fine, how long does it usually take them to send one?

mchale

NIP to registered keeper within 14 days of offence, if received any later than that you have grounds to fight it.

taffy056

Well you will find out within two weeks otherwise the speeding fine cannot be given, speedos generally are about 5% off, plus in some areas they give you 10% plus a few miles an hour, but they are trying to fill a gap in funding so it could be likely that if you were doing 70 you will get a fine in the post.

trets77

Nimeth wrote: »

I'm a little unsure whether I have been caught speeding or not. Basically:

-It was on a 60mph limit wide lane single carriageway (A46)
-The camera in question was a mobile speed camera van (facing the opposite direction I was going)
-I'm fairly sure I wasn't doing more than 65, absolutely positive it wasn't more than 70.
-I was overtaking at the time I passed the speed camera van as two cars in front of me were doing around 35-40 mph. I also made sure to overtake only when the road markings indicating that I could.

I know the cameras in the vans don't flash, so I have no idea if I'll be getting a fine through the post or not! How much leeway to speed cameras allow and does the fact that I was overtaking slow moving vehicles (yes, it was safe to do so, I checked before I overtook) make any difference?

If I do get a fine, how long does it usually take them to send one?

speed limit is i assume 60 mph .

therefore you are unlikely to get NIP for anything under 66mph .

and your speedo is probably set under what your actual speed is . if you have a sat nav see what speed that says you are travelling . to get to 70 mph on my Sat nav i have be doing 78mph on my Speedo .

Overtaking is not a valid excuse for speeding though .

They have 14 days to send you a NIP , if you haven't had a letter within around 18 days ( take into account upcoming Bank holidays) then forget the whole thing .though to be honest it sounds to me like you have not actual speeded .

if you do get a NIP , there is fair chance you will get offered a speed awareness course . if not then 3 points and standard fine at worse .

Nimeth

taffy056 wrote: »

Well you will find out within two weeks otherwise the speeding fine cannot be given, speedos generally are about 5% off, plus in some areas they give you 10% plus a few miles an hour, but they are trying to fill a gap in funding so it could be likely that if you were doing 70 you will get a fine in the post.

I think that's my learn something new everyday fact, didn't know most speedos are out.

How far ahead are they able to get a picture, do you know? I slowed down as soon as I spotted the van and was doing 60 (according to speedo) as I came level with the van and didn't speed up after that.

Thanks for the replies btw!

trets77

Nimeth wrote: »

I think that's my learn something new everyday fact, didn't know most speedos are out.

How far ahead are they able to get a picture, do you know? I slowed down as soon as I spotted the van and was doing 60 (according to speedo) as I came level with the van and didn't speed up after that.

Thanks for the replies btw!

If you could see the Van then he could probably clock you speeding . But it depends where the camera operator has his camera lined up on .

Just wait and see if anything drops through the letterbox , IF ( big IF, if you ask me ,based on what you have told us ) anything does then see if you get a speed awareness course .

you can get advice on Pepipoo IF you get a NIP . though like i said , i doubt you have actually committed a offence .

good luck

Strider590

You were overtaking so they'd have targeted your car for sure, at 65 I wouldn't expect a NIP as 65 in one car can be 60 in another (going to extremes). Most cars over read the speed slightly.....

Next time save your speed for where the revenue camera's won't be located, like outside a school or most 30mph roads, or when it's raining/foggy.

sarahg1969

trets77 wrote: »

speed limit is i assume 60 mph .

therefore you are unlikely to get NIP for anything under 66mph .

and your speedo is probably set under what your actual speed is . if you have a sat nav see what speed that says you are travelling . to get to 70 mph on my Sat nav i have be doing 78mph on my Speedo .

Overtaking is not a valid excuse for speeding though .

They have 14 days to send you a NIP , if you haven't had a letter within around 18 days ( take into account upcoming Bank holidays) then forget the whole thing .though to be honest it sounds to me like you have not actual speeded .

if you do get a NIP , there is fair chance you will get offered a speed awareness course . if not then 3 points and standard fine at worse .

They have 14 days from the date of the offence. Bank holidays do not allow for extra time for service. If it's outside the time limit, it has not been correctly served, and the OP has grounds to fight the NIP.

OP, if you do receive a NIP, keep everything, including the envelope and then post again.

trets77

sarahg1969 wrote: »

They have 14 days from the date of the offence. Bank holidays do not allow for extra time for service. If it's outside the time limit, it has not been correctly served, and the OP has grounds to fight the NIP.

OP, if you do receive a NIP, keep everything, including the envelope and then post again.

i thought they could factor in lost postage days , so they could send it within 14 days but you could not contest if you got it say after Xmas cause there was no post .

I could be wrong about that , if so i stand corrected .

Nimeth

Thanks all for the advice! Will be keeping an eye out to see what comes in the post for the next couple of weeks.

System

The Highway Code actually says in point 139. Overtake only when it is safe to do so. You should ....

• move quickly past the vehicle you are overtaking, once you have started to overtake.

So you could argue that it is safer to exceed the speed limit whilst overtaking so that the manouver is completed in the shortest safe time period possible, as long as you reduce your speed back to the limit after the overtake, which you did.