Rent arrears and what to do about it.

FTBFun

arborlinden wrote: »

This should be covered by the terms of the lease so read it carefully; but generally, under English law, tenants do not have to pay rent and Landlords can do nothing about it

The made-up law in my head agrees with you.

dancingfairy

I would write to them and remind them that as of the date of the letter the rent is x days late. Ask them to bring it up to date by such and such a date or you will be forced to issue them with notice. If they really are to much of a hassle and you don't think they will improve then issue them with notice anyway.
Are you 100% sure the tenants haven't paid? I ask this because I have seen threads on here where tenants have paid and Letting Agents are tardy in passing on the rent.
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arborlinden

Brb wrote: »

Yes, because like a muppet I've paid my rent 100% in full and 100% on time. What an idiot I've been :rotfl:

Not an idiot but an honest person. The fact remains as many landlords, many Councils and many users of the County Courts will testify and no matter how much you fork our for legal advice and action and no matter how many Court judgements you obtain if a tenant does not pay the rent in the final analysis in my experience there is NOTHING the law will do to make them pay. This has been the case ever since they abolished debtors prisons.

I think it is a follow on from the old adage "you can't get blood out of a stone" and there ain't anything more stonier than a tenant who won't pay.

However, if you do not believe me, I invite you to take a few hundred thousand pounds out of your savings account, buy a property and let it out to any Tom !!!!!! or Harry. Sooner or later you will come back and admit I am right. I can wait!

G_M

jools02 wrote: »

The tenancy agreement says that if the rent is unpaid for 14 days after becoming due the landlord can at any time thereafter re-enter the premises and resume possession of it subject to first obtaining an order for possession from the court and the landlord shall remain entitled to pursue any loss, damage, expense or arrears etc.

I am concerned about what happens at the end of the inital six month term, as I have not served a Section 21 Notice yet.

Where on earth did you get this tenancy agreement? Totally unenforcible and if you " re-enter the premises and resume possession " you will be commiting a criminal act.

Get onto your agents! This is their job. You're paying them to collect rent on your behalf aren't you?

(if not you have another problem - read this!)

terra_ferma

arborlinden wrote: »

Not an idiot but an honest person. The fact remains as many landlords, many Councils and many users of the County Courts will testify and no matter how much you fork our for legal advice and action and no matter how many Court judgements you obtain if a tenant does not pay the rent in the final analysis in my experience there is NOTHING the law will do to make them pay. This has been the case ever since they abolished debtors prisons.

I think it is a follow on from the old adage "you can't get blood out of a stone" and there ain't anything more stonier than a tenant who won't pay.

However, if you do not believe me, I invite you to take a few hundred thousand pounds out of your savings account, buy a property and let it out to any Tom !!!!!! or Harry. Sooner or later you will come back and admit I am right. I can wait!

Technically true, but only a minority of people will have nothing for the bailiffs to take. It will work in the vast majority of cases.
If people are so poor, they are likely to be receiving housing benefits, if they money is paid to them but not given to the landlord then they are committing benefit fraud, and they can end up in prison.

There is plenty that people can do.
Dishing out random advice as usual?

PS without mentioning once they have been evicted they may end up being homeless, private landlords will not take them on without a reference from previous landlord, and council will not take responsibility (unless they have children) because they are deemed intentionally homeless.

BitterAndTwisted

Your next course of action is to send a letter with a rent-statement to your tenants asking them to keep their rent-payments are up to date. The second is to issue them with a Section 21 Notice but only if you have protected their deposit and forwarded the information on to them. That is, if you have made the decision that you will be better off spending more money on finding new tenants rather than tolerating the rent being paid a few days late.

tbs624

You're right B& T but as the OP is 3 months old now there may have been resolve. The FT should have come to an end a month ago as the Op didnt repost they presumably got their rent and/or the T has moved on, or is shortly due to, under due legal process

Still, it was worth a late read of the thread for that initial post by arborlinden. Bless him/her

That's sounds like the sort of T that would lead many LLs to pursue them merely on a principle.

BitterAndTwisted

Oh, for heaven's sake! Which numpty bumped this redundant thread? Yes, terra-firma, I'm looking at you. GRRRR!

Yes, I see what you mean about arborlinden *rolls eyes*

bris

deleted, didn't realise it was an old thread.

terra_ferma

BitterAndTwisted wrote: »

Oh, for heaven's sake! Which numpty bumped this redundant thread? Yes, terra-firma, I'm looking at you. GRRRR!

Yes, I see what you mean about arborlinden *rolls eyes*

Since when is it OK to call people names on these boards?
Can't see anything to say you are joking. If this is all it takes to make you lose your temper and call people names you need to calm down.