Property Retention

Moon_Maiden

You've hit the nail on the head with this one.

Make-it-3 wrote: »

Your sister has assumed after two years that these things are hers, so peeved that you are asking for them back. I assume she was setting up home and didn't have the money to purchase her own and probably still doesn't. By threatening to charge for storage she is looking for some cash compensation for losing things she now considers hers and/or delaying returning them with nonsense about needing to see receipts.

Moon_Maiden

jackieglasgow wrote: »

I think the sister is trying to pull a fast one, ie " You can have it back once you've paid me for storing it for 2 years"

Yes, you're right Jackie, this is very much the case at the moment.

Thank you for your help and support.

Moon_Maiden

FBaby wrote: »

You can't store and use furniture at the same time, it's one or the other...

Exactly what my friends, family members, CAB and solicitor have said.

pollypenny

Unless you desperately need the stuff, walk away! You'll not win and she's worth worth the stress.

BitterAndTwisted

This sister must be in desperate traits to be forced to act so despicably to her own flesh and blood. Or, she's lower than a snake's wotsit. If the furniture isn't antique I'd be tempted to let her keep it and promise myself that I wouldn't wee on her if she was on fire.

Moon_Maiden

pollypenny wrote: »

Unless you desperately need the stuff, walk away! You'll not win and she's worth worth the stress.

BitterAndTwisted wrote: »

This sister must be in desperate traits to be forced to act so despicably to her own flesh and blood. Or, she's lower than a snake's wotsit. If the furniture isn't antique I'd be tempted to let her keep it and promise myself that I wouldn't wee on her if she was on fire.

Thanks both. I want to walk away and never see/talk/have anything to do with her. She is awful and difficult to deal wilth and is totally unreasonable. If she had some maturity, we could agree a hand-over date for the stuff. Sadly I am dealing with somebody who delights in point scoring. My ex-brother-in-law had horrendous problems with her when they split and her behaviour during their divorce was less than exemplary.

If it was an ordinary table and chairs I would but these are antiques and worth more than the £150 she is offering as settlement. She doesn't want the stuff, she is trying to con money out of me by saying there was a verbal agreement for storage - to which there wasn't and I wouldn't out it past her to get family members to lie on her behalf. You cannot "store" items and then charge for using them everyday! Perhaps I should lower myself to her level and charge for rental. That would be childish and I am better than that.

Moon_Maiden

There sure are a lot of laws in this country - but there aint much Justice!!! (Dean Koontz - One Door Away From Heaven)

Absolutely love this quote - says it all.

Mojisola

Moon_Maiden wrote: »

Thanks both. I want to walk away and never see/talk/have anything to do with her. She is awful and difficult to deal wilth and is totally unreasonable. If she had some maturity, we could agree a hand-over date for the stuff. Sadly I am dealing with somebody who delights in point scoring. My ex-brother-in-law had horrendous problems with her when they split and her behaviour during their divorce was less than exemplary.

If it was an ordinary table and chairs I would but these are antiques and worth more than the £150 she is offering as settlement. She doesn't want the stuff, she is trying to con money out of me by saying there was a verbal agreement for storage - to which there wasn't and I wouldn't out it past her to get family members to lie on her behalf. You cannot "store" items and then charge for using them everyday! Perhaps I should lower myself to her level and charge for rental. That would be childish and I am better than that.

With this history, I would be tempted by the idea to give her a cheque when you collect the furniture and then cancel it immediately.

vaio

Maybe not such a bright idea as I don't think you can defend against a court action over a bounced or stopped cheque as handing it over in the first place is regarded as acceptance of the debt

ceridwen

todolistsocd wrote: »

Hi,

I agree with "Gingin".
How do you know if you got the stuff back, there wouldn't be things wrong with it anyway.
I would say...let her keep the stuff.
After all, she was in a bad enough position already if you had to lend her furniture?
Cut the ties while you can...she'll be back soon enough!

Hope this helps!

Must admit my reaction to the "things wrong with it" comment is twofold - ie this poster is probably correct actually - I expect she has damaged your possessions and that is one of the reasons she is trying to steal them from you.

My other side to this is "If there isnt anything wrong with my possessions now - there soon will be - I will visit her and break them myself. At least she wont have them then either..."

My personal course of action would be to visit her and physically take my possessions back - and, if that proved impossible for some reason, I would have to hand something to ruin those possessions (maybe paint to spray on them?).

I would then walk out of the door and walk out of her life.

The one concern I would have here is that she might be so !!!!!y that she might try and put in a fake complaint to the Police that you have damaged "her" possessions - but then how would she prove that stolen possessions are "hers" anyway? She wont have any receipts for your possessions - because she stole them in the first place. So - if she tried acting up and threatening the Police - then my reply would be "Go right ahead - be my guest. At that point - you wont have the receipts for MY possessions - but I will...:D".

Anyway it definitely boils down to at the least:
- try and get your stolen possessions back and make sure she gets as little "enjoyment" as possible from them if she manages to hang onto them
- kick her out of my life
- tell our joint parents what she'd done
- if I ever had some "good fortune" she might want to share in the future (that Lottery win we all hope for!) - then make sure she knew about it and not give her a penny of it...