getting ready for the BUGS!!!

cootambear

A._Badger wrote: »

No, I'm attacked by idiotic MEPs - most of whom are in the pockets of either the big two chemical companies, or the equally venal 'Green' lobby - who wouldn't know a rose from a radish, deciding what I may, or may not, use in my garden.

How about a deal? I won't tell you how you should live your life, and you return the compliment?

It's telling how often that comes across as a revolutionary concept.

You are forgetting all the secondary gains; namely,

the illusion of spirituality, the comfort of ritual (observed in all religions), the sense of worthiness, a sense of power (the fate of the world is in your hands), a sense of being important, a feeling of being superior to the uneducated masses.

`organic` gardening has so much to give! take off your blinkers badger!

Sambucus_Nigra

cootambear wrote: »

You are forgetting all the secondary gains; namely,

the illusion of spirituality, the comfort of ritual (observed in all religions), the sense of worthiness, a sense of power (the fate of the world is in your hands), a sense of being important, a feeling of being superior to the uneducated masses.

`organic` gardening has so much to give! take off your blinkers badger!

There's absolutely nothing wrong in wanting to grow food that isn't covered in inorganic chemicals...otherwise you may as well 'just go to tescos' that mecca of the age.

Ohm.

cootambear

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

There's absolutely nothing wrong in wanting to grow food that isn't covered in inorganic chemicals...otherwise you may as well 'just go to tescos' that mecca of the age.

Ohm.

Thats the point though isn`t it?

They are our gardens. If I want to put effective chemicals on it, that should be my right. if you don`t then its yours. But everyone should not be forced to follow the dictats of the Green Industry.

As it happens, the only chemicals I put on my garden are h20, urine, slug pellets, and more complex chemical conglomerates like leaf mould and dung.

I also have an unspoken agreement with my neighbours cat, who is free to sun himself in my garden in return for his avian predation skills.

My garden follows the premise of the least effort for the maximum reward. If I saw it as a chore, I wouldnt do it.

If I had to spend all my time and money spraying with chemicals I wouldnt do it. If I had to spend all hours grubbing for grubs I wouldnt do it either.

So, on to the bete noire of Greens - Tesco......... (and I guess other supermarkets`?

I use them. For example, I cant (or wouldnt if I could), rear my own pigs. I won`t pay the fancy prices `organic` farmers demand, so I buy supermarket pork. I buy their spuds carrots and onions because they are cheap and frankly dont taste that much worse than home grown.

The fruit and veg that I grow are the ones that are easy to grow and far more flavoursome than the supermarkets.

In summary, gardening is easy and fun. I don`t see why it needs to be overcomplicated.

Sambucus_Nigra

cootambear wrote: »

Thats the point though isn`t it?

They are our gardens...In summary, gardening is easy and fun. I don`t see why it needs to be overcomplicated.

It's my garden too - but yet I am not just gardening but revelling in

the illusion of spirituality, the comfort of ritual (observed in all religions), the sense of worthiness, a sense of power (the fate of the world is in your hands), a sense of being important, a feeling of being superior to the uneducated masses.

Apparently.

Actually, I just want to garden, to let the insects and wildlife find their happy medium and eat some quality food. But you can't suggest organic solutions on here or you get the above foisted on you.

It's a little extreme isn't it?

It's an option not to reach for a bottle but to think it through a little before dousing the plants that will provide for you with nasties; that's all I'm suggesting to those who ask.

The hostility on here seems to be one directional...I wonder why?

cootambear

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

It's my garden too - but yet I am not just gardening but revelling in



Apparently.

Actually, I just want to garden, to let the insects and wildlife find their happy medium and eat some quality food. But you can't suggest organic solutions on here or you get the above foisted on you.

It's a little extreme isn't it?

It's an option not to reach for a bottle but to think it through a little before dousing the plants that will provide for you with nasties; that's all I'm suggesting to those who ask.

The hostility on here seems to be one directional...I wonder why?

hmm if you read though page 1 you will find that two posters had the temerity to suggest chemical controls, then got hostile responses.

Anyway, in my my view, different views are good for democracy (in its widest sense), as long as there are no personal insults. which hasnt happened yet. but it has in the past. I have received plenty, but I dont give a flying because it means that the insulters have run out of ideas.

Lets keep it not personal please

officeguru

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

Go find a ladybird or two and pop them in your greenhouse.

I've got every surface covered with seedlings in mine, not one greenfly to be found. Because I let the insects come in and furtle for their lunch.

Unfortunately, your jeyes fluid may well have killed any overwintering ladybirds that would have already had them by now.

Thanks for your advice... I've had my greenhouse for 20+ years and this is the first time I have had greenfly so early... Usually it's when I have been picking the tomatoes that I usually see them.

I've got a feeling that the greenfly came from one of the overwintered pots... Although I have been working in my garden since Feb, there are very few insects about yet... It's still pretty cold.. although, I did see a ladybird yesterday and took it from a weed and placed it on a plant... 10 to one it won't be there tomorrow !!!

Thanks for your advice....

officeguru

kittie wrote: »

me too officeguru, that was in the old days and I know better now

what about a tiny bit of washing up liquid in water and using a gentle kitchen sprayer

I`m not ready for cabbage whites and I saw 2 today, arghhh I thought we had another 3 weeks or so

You must be a lot warmer that us... The most I have seen so far are a few big bumble bees (they might have been queens... ) They were big enough to have their own landing gear.. Mark you, when the sun shines, you can feel the warmth ... It's nice to see a bit of colour in the garden and the buds starting to open..

I'll try the washing-up liquid... It should suffocate the little blighters ..

Cheers

Sambucus_Nigra

cootambear wrote: »

hmm if you read though page 1 you will find that two posters had the temerity to suggest chemical controls, then got hostile responses.

*wanders off thinking I must be reading a different thread

cootambear

Sambucus_Nigra wrote: »

*wanders off thinking I must be reading a different thread

dont wander too far..............

Lotus-eater

cootambear wrote: »

nothing natural about that, unless you are a protein starved tribesman who wants to eat em.

Do try not to be such an idiot about everything old chap.