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Speed camera

Alleged speeding offence (68 in a 50 on a motorway didn't see the sign it was big enough but distracted by talking to passenger)on the 9th March. Notice of intended prosecution arrived on 1st April posted on 30 March. I have had same company lease car for nearly 5 years, with the law stating the registered keeper should be notified in 14 days, is not 21 days outside this even for company car driver:question:
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  • Strider590
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  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    Alleged speeding offence (68 in a 50 on a motorway didn't see the sign it was big enough but distracted by talking to passenger)on the 9th March. Notice of intended prosecution arrived on 1st April posted on 30 March. I have had same company lease car for nearly 5 years, with the law stating the registered keeper should be notified in 14 days, is not 21 days outside this even for company car driver:question:


    Are you the registered keeper or is it the company?, could account for the delay.

    However regardless you have admitted to not having seen the sign, not sure how you know how big it was if you didn't see it, but regardless you were speeding if you were travelling at "normal" MW limits.

    Be a man and put your hand in your pocket. :A
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  • TiTheRev
    TiTheRev Posts: 3,215 Forumite
    Done the crime? Do the time.

    Dis Ronny Biggs get let off because they didn't catch him a few days after the robbery? He was arrested 36 years after the event!
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  • harveybobbles
    harveybobbles Posts: 8,973 Forumite
    The reason for the delay will be this:

    The Police would have contacted the reg'd owner (the Leasing Company) within the 14 days. then they Leasing Company would look thru their system to see which company they lease it to and pass it to them. They then send it to the driver of the car. You.
  • sarahg1969
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    TiTheRev wrote: »
    Dis Ronny Biggs get let off because they didn't catch him a few days after the robbery? He was arrested 36 years after the event!

    That's because there is nothing written into the law that says that robbers must be served with a notice of intended proseuction within 14 days.
  • Yorkie1
    Yorkie1 Posts: 11,713 Forumite
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    The reason for the delay will be this:

    The Police would have contacted the reg'd owner (the Leasing Company) within the 14 days. then they Leasing Company would look thru their system to see which company they lease it to and pass it to them. They then send it to the driver of the car. You.

    This is absolutely correct.

    The relevant obligation under s.1 RTOA 1988 is to serve the NIP on the registered keeper within 14 days. If this is complied with, then the service of the NIP on the person being prosecuted (if not the registered keeper) can be outside the 14 days.
  • Mankysteve
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    sarahg1969 wrote: »
    That's because there is nothing written into the law that says that robbers must be served with a notice of intended proseuction within 14 days.

    And there shouldn't be for motoring offences.
  • Mankysteve wrote: »
    And there shouldn't be for motoring offences.

    Depends on the motoring offence.

    Is it really reasonable for an alleged speeder to be told 2 years after the event that they were apparently speeding? Of course it isn't. How would they be able to challenge it if they couldn't remember whether they were even in a car that day?

    It's often worth having a little think before posting.
  • datostar
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    Mankysteve wrote: »
    And there shouldn't be for motoring offences.

    In the days when there was such a thing as police traffic enforcement, the majority of offenders were told at the time of the offence that they may be prosecuted. No question of not understanding what the alleged offence was or trying to remember if they were in a particular place at a particular time. The written Notice of Intended Prosecution was a statutory backup for when the notice was not given verbally for some reason, such as following an accident where witnesses had to be spoken to, having to trace a registered keeper if a vehicle was not stopped etc.

    With the mechanical robotic enforcement nowadays, the written N.I.P. has taken on much greater prominence and is very important in enabling the alleged offender to know what he is accused of and prepare any possible defence.

    Leased vehicles can be a problem. Even fine notices are not always passed on to the user, resulting in increases and/or threats of court appearances and a bit of a bureaucratic nightmare getting things rectified. It happened to me. Fortunately the man at the 'Central Ticket Office' I spoke to was aware of the recurrent problem and cancelled the Court threat.
  • cyclonebri1
    cyclonebri1 Posts: 12,827 Forumite
    The reason for the delay will be this:

    The Police would have contacted the reg'd owner (the Leasing Company) within the 14 days. then they Leasing Company would look thru their system to see which company they lease it to and pass it to them. They then send it to the driver of the car. You.


    Is'nt that the registered keeper??
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    Will the grammar and spelling police respect I do make grammatical errors, and have carp spelling, no need to remind me.;)

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