ISER says impact of interest rate rises limited

Graham_Devon

julieq wrote: »

Well your questions from that post have been answered.

You have detailed information on the methodology of the BBC tables.

And we've pointed out that the Shelter data is internally inconsistent and draws obviously flawed conclusions.

So in view of that, you can now explain what you think of the BBC reports.

Not that you will, because from the moment it didn't agree with what you thought should happen, you rejected the report. You haven't explained why, all you do is say the two conclusions (Shelter and the BBC) are possibly equivalent in quality and you plump for the one that supports you. They're not equivalent. Sorry.

Which process of self deception is known as confirmation bias.

Oh !!!!!!. I haven't plumped for any. Show me any text which I have wrote which implies one is better than another. There isn't any.

Go on, show me. Quote my text.

I simply said it was wildly different, and then gave reference to why I thought that, i.e. the shelter survey, which quite a few of you seem to have taken issue with. I haven't actually taken issue with any. Re read. Quote me if I have.

Don't try to psycho analyse everything again and keep suggesting to everyone else I'm saying something I've never actually wrote.

This has simply turned into another argument with my leg being severely shag*ed.

Legs had enough. Can't talk about anything without wotsthat trying to trip you up, chucky just claiming anything and everything and julie stating you have some psycological illness.

You'll probably all turn round and agree in a minute that the two surveys ARE wildly differenct, and most economic findings are wildly different on the impact of interest rates.

wotsthat

Graham_Devon wrote: »

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=42356500&postcount=3

Your attempts to trip me up continuously is becoming quite obsessional.

Oh you think it's interesting and wondered how they measured these things?

Did you think the conclusion that the impact of rate rises would be limited fair? It's not a trick question.

julieq

Was waiting for the big flounce off post, and right on cue, there it was. Your contention has been utterly demolished, so the only option now is to tell us we're all HORRID for debating with you (in a debating forum). And then you'll come back tomorrow and discuss with a few hangers on how right you were and misrepresent a few things I've said to the gallery and persuade yourself you were right all along.

Here's your opportunity Graham: just tell us what you think of the conclusions in the BBC table, which contradict your confident assertions that interest rate rises will cause mass repossessions. That's all we're asking. You joined the thread, now just tell us your opinion. Is the data right, wrong, welcome or unwelcome?

Incidentally, confirmation bias isn't a psychological illness. It's the tendency people have to fit what they see to their belief system.

Graham_Devon

julieq wrote: »

Was waiting for the big flounce off post, and right on cue, there it was. Your contention has been utterly demolished, so the only option now is to tell us we're all HORRID for debating with you (in a debating forum). And then you'll come back tomorrow and discuss with a few hangers on how right you were and misrepresent a few things I've said to the gallery and persuade yourself you were right all along.

Here's your opportunity Graham: just tell us what you think of the conclusions in the BBC table, which contradict your confident assertions that interest rate rises will cause mass repossessions. That's all we're asking. You joined the thread, now just tell us your opinion. Is the data right, wrong, welcome or unwelcome?

Incidentally, confirmation bias isn't a psychological illness. It's the tendency people have to fit what they see to their belief system.

So you can't quote me.

How surprising.

julieq

What is the point of joining a thread on a subject on which you don't dare express an opinion?

Graham_Devon

julieq wrote: »

What is the point of joining a thread on a subject on which you don't dare express an opinion?

LOL. Can you quote me or not?

You have been condeming my opinion. Even psycologically diagnosing me over my opinion.

I mean, my "opinion" on this proved my confirmation bias! Your own words!!!

Now, you ask me why I join this thread and don't offer an opinion.

Now, please, leave my leg alone.

julieq

Graham_Devon wrote: »

It's interesting research.

There was another place that did some research on this...think it was shelter?

The results were wildly different to this research if I recall correctly. Makes you wonder how people measure such things.

Quote/Unquote

The other place that did some research on this was Yougov, full details of that given in the thread explaining internal inconsistencies and why the interpretation is flawed.

The methodology used by the BBC also investigated and explained, seen to be sound.

CONCLUSION: the answer to your question is that the reason the results were wildly different was due to your misunderstanding misleading research published by Shelter (which research was designed to deceive), against sound conclusions in the BBC thread.

So do you want to say anything about the subject of the thread? Do you think the BBC data is wrong/right/good or bad?

Go on, you have an opinion on anything else...

Anything else you'd like me to quote, let me know.

julieq

Oh, and as to evidence of confirmation bias you can disprove that by agreeing that the BBC data is based on a sound methodology and Shelter is internally inconsistent.

Any other conclusion would show you to be valuing the Shelter research way beyond its worth and demonstrating that you're clinging onto the belief that interest rate rises will trigger mass repossessions. Which the data doesn't show. Sorry.

Graham_Devon

julieq wrote: »

Oh, and as to evidence of confirmation bias you can disprove that by agreeing that the BBC data is based on a sound methodology and Shelter is internally inconsistent. .

Oh right. So I have the option of:

A: Agree with julie entirley.
B: Be accused of confirmation bias if I do not agree totally.

Thats nice of you.

No wonder you come to some fantastic conclusions.