No point working - why not just go on benefits?

The_White_Horse

can't the unemployed be made to sit in football stadiums all day in complete silence between 9-5 and then they can go home. they should not be allowed to lay in bed, watch jeremy kyle, go to the pub, hang out with their friends whilst i am working.

filthy dirty scum they are.

B_Blank

Basically the government need to stop !!!!ing around with catch phrases, and need to actually start making work pay. Cameron and IDS like to talk a good game, but their inaction on inflation (which benefits are rising with but wages arent) is undermining their tough talk.

The tories look after two groups of people:
1, The "poor" - i.e. the benefits lots who need £20k a year to sit on their !!!!!!. They look after these because all the politicains do in westminster is shout at each other for not looking after the poor people. Its pathetic. All this whilst they are fiddling their expenses to make a tidy profit themselves.
2, The banks.

JOKE.

The average working man is the easy target for all political parties. The guy who worked his way up from poverty to be on £70k a year has to pay £20k a year towards the massive benefits of his classmate who just sat at home and couldnt be bothered all through life. All this whilst his classmate gets a big government house (basically for free, and for life) and he has to pay £300k for a shoebox of a flat.

DISGRACE

Jimmy_31

EdgEy wrote: »

Why does having a savings account with £16k in make you ineligible for basically all state benefit?

Why does pumping out bags of meat pay £20/£14 a week for the next 18 years?

Why do benefits pay more than a national minimum wage job?

Why does the NHS, the flagship of equality, offer refunds on dentistry and optometry to those below the aforementioned 16k cap?

Answer: because the British Government rewards failure. Populism at its finest.

I could go on all day about the rest, housing benefit propping up rents, student finance grants to low incomes, etc, etc.

As Blank says, the poor working man is punished while the benefit scrounger prospers.

Im a single working man and qualify for zero benefits by law because i am saving a deposit in the bank for a house so that i am not a burden on society, its soul destroying when i get layed off from work every now and again and cant claim one single penny back from the thousands of pounds ive paid in over the years.

Hopefully one day the country will be ran by a real working man and not some thick t*at who went to a posh school and hasnt got a clue about anything, maybe then things would get better, i live in hope.

Cleaver

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

Im a single working man and qualify for zero benefits by law because i am saving a deposit in the bank for a house so that i am not a burden on society, its soul destroying when i get layed off from work every now and again and cant claim one single penny back from the thousands of pounds ive paid in over the years.

Hopefully one day the country will be ran by a real working man and not some thick t*at who went to a posh school and hasnt got a clue about anything, maybe then things would get better, i live in hope.

To be fair though, going to a posh school probably does give one a good grounding in punctuation and the appropriate usage of majuscules.

Broadwood

Blank sheet of paper......Start again.

PAYG.

No pay........No go.......No Exceptions.

Everything.

Simple.

Sorted.

Jimmy_31

cleaver wrote: »

to be fair though, going to a posh school probably does give one a good grounding in punctuation and the appropriate usage of majuscules.

right, sound, thanks for that lad, made up ya pointed it out

Broadwood

Cleaver wrote: »

To be fair though, going to a posh school probably does give one a good grounding in punctuation and the appropriate usage of majuscules.

pMSL.,;:/".......That was a bit cruel Cleaver, have you tried reading some text messages?

SD-253

Jimmy_31 wrote: »

Im a single working man and qualify for zero benefits by law because i am saving a deposit in the bank for a house so that i am not a burden on society, its soul destroying when i get layed off from work every now and again and cant claim one single penny back from the thousands of pounds ive paid in over the years.

Hopefully one day the country will be ran by a real working man and not some thick t*at who went to a posh school and hasnt got a clue about anything, maybe then things would get better, i live in hope.

What are you talking about they are always going to set a maximum savings after which you don't get dole? Surely you realise that? AND that if they didn't the "posh thick t*at who went to a posh school" mates would be the beneficaries??????

michaels

Darn - this was my plan for a cushtie couple of years but this and the plan to include savings in assessing all benefits may have it scuppered. For example I am currently doing 16 hours employed per week - if I also did 14 hours 'ebay trading' for zero profit I would get an extra 700 in working tax credits...

Jowo wrote: »

It's worth mentioning that perhaps the self-employed with no or low turnover could be in for a shock in the move to the Universal Credit system as the proposal paper says they will be treated as if they earn the National Minimum Wage for the hours they report.

Currently someone who is self employed can expect to maximise their benefit entitlements - tax credits, council tax rebate, local housing allowance - if they report low profits and therefore are relatively cushioned from the consequences of their poor trading.

Under UC, they will be treated as if they have earned the NMW (even if they don't) which will make them appear wealthier under the means testing and reduce their top ups, making them much more reliant on their trading to form their household inocme.

SingleSue

B_Blank wrote: »

Basically the government need to stop !!!!ing around with catch phrases, and need to actually start making work pay. Cameron and IDS like to talk a good game, but their inaction on inflation (which benefits are rising with but wages arent) is undermining their tough talk.

The tories look after two groups of people:
1, The "poor" - i.e. the benefits lots who need £20k a year to sit on their !!!!!!. They look after these because all the politicains do in westminster is shout at each other for not looking after the poor people. Its pathetic. All this whilst they are fiddling their expenses to make a tidy profit themselves.


DISGRACE

I am sorry, but I take exception to the above quoted text.

I may be on benefits but sit on my bottom all the time I do not!