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Strict liability, law change to protect vulnerable road users?

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  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    Two school girls (early teens) stepped out in right front of my car this morning, I had to literally stand on the anchors, they saw me and just carried on as if they had all the time in the world.......... :mad:

    Another situation where the in-car video could prove invaluable!!

    And just yesterday, I was on foot and saw a mother walking with a pram and two small children..... The mother steps into the road when her side is clear and waits, her young daughter took this as "safe to cross", didn't even look and charged straight over into the path of a car, I still don't know how that car didn't hit her!!! There were literally millimetres in it!!

    The "vulnerable" can do some pretty stupid things sometimes!
    “I may not agree with you, but I will defend to the death your right to make an a** of yourself.”

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  • geri1965_2
    geri1965_2 Posts: 8,736 Forumite
    bigjl wrote: »
    IAutomatically aportioning liability will just cause pedestrians to walk across the road like lemmings and for cyclist to act in ever more reckless ways.

    Utter nonsense - I am not going to suddenly start cycling recklessly or running into the road just because the law makes it easier for me to claim! I would still rather avoid being injured in the first place, so I will take the same precautions that I always do.
  • Inactive
    Inactive Posts: 14,509 Forumite
    Strider590 wrote: »
    Two school girls (early teens) stepped out in right front of my car this morning, I had to literally stand on the anchors, they saw me and just carried on as if they had all the time in the world.......... :mad:

    Another situation where the in-car video could prove invaluable!!



    The "vulnerable" can do some pretty stupid things sometimes!

    It could prove that you were driving too fast for the prevailing conditions..;)

    I cannot recall the last time that I had to " stand on the anchors "..
  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    Inactive wrote: »
    I cannot recall the last time that I had to " stand on the anchors "..

    I didn't "have to", I don't normally like to interfere with Darwins theory, but I didn't fancy the mess. :rotfl:
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  • birkee
    birkee Posts: 1,933 Forumite
    Inactive wrote: »
    It could prove that you were driving too fast for the prevailing conditions..;)

    I cannot recall the last time that I had to " stand on the anchors "..

    Stupid statement!

    In a crowded High Street, ANY forward progress by a car is 'going too fast' if some idiot decides to step into the road.

    That's typical pedestrian mentality. (Some may even be drivers.)
    A car doing 5mph when somebody three feet in front of him steps into the road, and 'the driver was going too fast'?

    Drivers don't usually 'not look' before changing direction, and usually give a signal of their intentions to do so.
    Some Pedestrians do what? Turn left / right and step into the road without looking, and with no signals.

    Drive a 2 mile road, and pass 25 Pedestrians.....what are you supposed to do? Slow down to 5 mph each time you approach one?
  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    geri1965 wrote: »
    Utter nonsense - I am not going to suddenly start cycling recklessly or running into the road just because the law makes it easier for me to claim! I would still rather avoid being injured in the first place, so I will take the same precautions that I always do.


    I have been deleaing with the general public daily for a decade.

    I have witnesses many times where drivers have slammed on their brakes to get somebody to rearend them in order to claim of the other persons Insurance.

    The funniest one was when somebody did this on the A13, sadly they weren't the most intelligent would be fraudsters and they filled the car up including having somebdy sitting in the rear centre seast that only had a lapbelt, result a fractured vertebrae, stable but a fracture all the same.

    Just aswell we noticed the mechanism of injury and the fact there was a guenuine patient as all they were interested in was getting all the details for their future claim sorted out.


    I wish I could have the same view on life as you do.

    But in East an Central London it isn't unusual for pedestrians to walk straight across the road in front of Emergency vehicles on the bell, I discussed this phenomenum with a Traffic copper once, he said it was simply because we always pay out in such cases, regardless of what has happened.

    It is also not unusual even without these kind of laws for cyclists to run around as if the own the road.

    This includes running redlights, ignoring keep lefts signs, etc.

    When you toot the horn to make sure they know you are there they turn round and swear and shout, berating you as if by the simple act if using a vehicle with an engine you are in factr a child raping seal clubber.

    You continue to live in your cloud cuckoo land, I live in the real world, and I have told you what will happen.

    Anybody that thinks otherwise has very little idea on how the world really works.

    The worst people for such thinking would appear to be thise educated in the Social Sciences or have a lefty attitude.

    Why do I know this, because until I worked for a few years in the Emergency Services I was probably one of the worst do gooder lefties you could meet.

    Sadly my view has been changed by the realities of society.

    I think everybody should be made to work for 5 years in the Emergency Services or the Armed Forces without exception.

    Then they can see exactly how British, or at least London society actually works, and how people actually behave.

    Until you have witnessed a driver walking into a House demanding you move your Ambulance, which is parked outside with all the lights flashing, when you are working on a young mum in cardiac arrest on the kitchen floor then you can never understand where I am coming from.


    I, for one, am jealous of your inocence, but like many firsts in a persons lifetime, once the innocence is lost there is no going back.:(
  • Inactive
    Inactive Posts: 14,509 Forumite
    birkee wrote: »
    Stupid statement!

    In a crowded High Street, ANY forward progress by a car is 'going too fast' if some idiot decides to step into the road.

    Not stupid at all, a good driver will be aware that somebody is about to step out and adjust their speed accordingly, as I said I have never put myself in to a position where I needed to " slam on the anchors ", if you have, then perhaps some further driver training may be in order.
  • birkee
    birkee Posts: 1,933 Forumite
    Inactive wrote: »
    It could prove that you were driving too fast for the prevailing conditions..;)

    Re. my last post.

    And it could be he wasn't.
  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    Strider590 wrote: »
    I didn't "have to", I don't normally like to interfere with Darwins theory, but I didn't fancy the mess. :rotfl:


    Come and work for the emergency services, then you get to see Darwins theory in action daily.

    Some crews have commented afterwards how many patients should be nominated for a Darwin reward.

    There was a person in East London several years ago that got an, erm, appendage stuck in one of those wide neck Lucozade bottles, he waited all night to dial 999, he then refused to travel, but called back 4 hours later.

    Last I heard they were thinking about giving blood thinners to save the appendage, it had suffered due to lack of blood flow.

    What a w@@@@r...........................:D
  • Inactive
    Inactive Posts: 14,509 Forumite
    birkee wrote: »
    Re. my last post.

    And it could be he wasn't.


    Of course he was if he needed to " slam on the anchors ".
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