False allegations of Benefit fraud

allen35

No non-dependant deduction will be made for:-

someone who is staying with the client temporarily but who has a home elsewhere, for example, a visiting relative


So don't feel you can't stay, it seems there is no wrong doing at all based on what you think are the allegations, fill the form in honestly and return to the dep't.

As stated allegations of benefit fraud are made and dwp or other dep'ts have to take most, seriously and they keep an open mind until you give your evidence

truckerboy66

My ex wife is repeatedly phoning the benefit agency claiming that I live with my girlfriend, who is on benefit. The benefit agency call my girlfriend in for an interview and suspend her money whilst they investigate. This has happened twice now and seems will continue whilst my ex wife is allowed to keep making these allegations. The system is there to crack down on the people who are claiming unfairly. But when people abuse this system what punishment will they get. It seems they have the right of protection, but what of the rights of the victims. The system needs to make these people as guilty as the people that are commiting the fraud in the first place. How much does these false allegaions cost the tax payer. They are allowed to get away withn it because there is no comeback on them. If the law was change so that they will be made accountable then the amount of false calls would be dramatically reduced.

FBaby

My ex used to play the system with his girlfriend because she was on benefits and they didn't want to lose all she was receiving as a single mum. They were very clever about it because they knew exactly the rules and what would need to be proven. Of course he did help with her bills, furnished her house, bought a new flat tv, bought the shopping and did the cooking... but all money exchanged was always cash in hands, and he managed to get a friend to let him use a 'room' for £50 a month all inclusive which he used to store his things and of course had his mail sent there. He spent most of his time at hers, stayed three or four times a week, but because of everything else, it would have been hard to prove he lived there. I thought about reporting them, I was a single mum working full-time supporting our two children (he didn't pay a penny maintenance), but I couldn't be bothered to go through it when I highly suspected they could have lied their way through their teeth.

I am not saying that your are doing the same, but maybe your ex thinks so?

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dseventy wrote: »

Whilst I am sympathetic to the problems a malicious claim causes, we should not be putting off people shopping in cheats.

To report someone you only to suspect them.

Unfortunatly when you are replying on someone else to pay your rent and modest income, you have to jump through their hoops!

D70

but do THEY have the right to set fire to the bloody hoops first?

truckerboy66

Thanx for your comments FBABY, in your situation you had the right to make that call as what they were doing was wrong. Unfortunately it is the tax payer that is funding their deceipt. As for my ex wife, she has not moved on in her life and is determined to make sure that I don't either. She is making life as difficult as possible even using our son as weapon bargaining tool against me. This was done out of spite as she knows that I don't live with my girlfriend because she follows me to check up where I am.

truckerboy66

Woodbine, you are right on that score, this system was set up to stop the cheats and that should continue, but there is always people that will abuse the system for their own benefit, that is what needs to be stopped.

TheHangingJudge

woodbine wrote: »

but do THEY have the right to set fire to the bloody hoops first?

Benefit continues in payment until the investigation ends. So no-one's immediately out of pocket. The only time benefit is suspended is if, for example, the claimant doesn't co-operate with the investigation, fails to attend interviews etc.

The fraud & compliance officers are all locally based and have good knowledge of their geographic areas & client base. If repeated, false allegations against the same person keep being made, there's every chance those allegations will end up in the circular filing tray (underneath the investigator's desk) ... with no further action being taken.

dseventy

woodbine wrote: »

but do THEY have the right to set fire to the bloody hoops first?

The hoops are already on fire before you decide to jump through them.

Don't like the amount of scrutiny and rules? Then don't claim. Or certainly don't clame then moan about the rules!

D70

kaya

for somebody with nothing to worry about your coming across a very worried

truckerboy66

TheHangingJudge wrote: »

Benefit continues in payment until the investigation ends. So no-one's immediately out of pocket. The only time benefit is suspended is if, for example, the claimant doesn't co-operate with the investigation, fails to attend interviews etc.

The fraud & compliance officers are all locally based and have good knowledge of their geographic areas & client base. If repeated, false allegations against the same person keep being made, there's every chance those allegations will end up in the circular filing tray (underneath the investigator's desk) ... with no further action being taken.

in my case the benefit was stopped pending investigations, this has happened twice now, and the money was not back dated on the first occasion, they can't stop the child benefit, but they also suspended her housing benefit and council tax benefit too.