This was ranted at me last week.."Its ok for you, you don't have a mortgage"

Hereward

twadge_face wrote: »

I don't believe I suggested they were. Don't try to rewrite history like the rest of the daft bulls Julie.

OK, so public spending was higher than tax revenue for years, but the deficit only skyrocketed as a result of the bank bailouts. <Snip>

I'm surprised that no one else spotted this fallacy. It'd not surprising that the deficit sky-rocketed after the banks needed help, there was this small thing called the credit crunch. This mean that tax receipts fell through the floor. There was an assumption in public spending that tax receipts would continue to rise. So, as people trimmed their cloth to suit the lack of available credit they reduced the amount of tax they paid. Unfortunately, normal public spending didn't react in the same way.

The_Fox_3

Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

I thought that comment strange, too. So I looked at my voluminous accounts.

Phew! Record year for me [although I bettered it in future years]. Investment income was more than double the previous year. Managed to get my tax down by 30% (stuffed rather a lot into pensions at higher rate relief I recall). Rise in house value 50% higher than previous year's rise. Banked an overall 'surplus' of £74K

Didn't see any schools fall down. Patients dying on trolleys is quite normal every year. MP's still pay assistants nothing. Unpaid 'Research Assistants' hoping to get something full time with pay. It's illegal to pay less than min wage, but perfectly legal to pay zero.

I remember the lead up to 1997 and 1997 itself as a good time, a good time that is if you was working. I remember Ken Clarke handing over a dream economic climate that was the equivalant of a rolls royce with a full tank, only for Gordon Brown to turn it into a run down old Leyland running on fumes.

I had paid of about 60% equity in my then property, and even though i had a problem with the work shy and welfare spongers and 17 year old girls having a couple of kids with a couple of Dads at least i knew as a worker and taxpayer my lot was better than theirs.

And i also remember the joy of a new Labour government being elected, i honestly believed that we were heading for a better society, how wrong i was.

The_Fox_3

SUFFER_THE_LITTLE_GHOULS wrote: »

Well said. Sometimes people need to be put in their rightful place.

You are quite a disturbed little man(men), you really need to get that multiple personality disorder sorted

The_Fox_3

SUFFER_THE_LITTLE_GHOULS wrote: »

He needs to grow a spine get out there and be a man. Buy a house for his family.

You really are quite a nasty piece of work!!

You(and your multiple personalities) to equate house ownership to success such as being more desirable to women or being anyway more of a man shows to me that you need "things" to compensate for your lack of any true worth and self esteem.

Your posts along with the likes of Sibley and Julia of people who have no sense of anything but themselves, just cold empty people who honestly think success comes from materialistic wealth.

I swear that I pity you,

Hereward

The_Fox wrote: »

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Your posts along with the likes of Sibley and Julia of people who have no sense of anything but themselves, just cold empty people who honestly think success comes from materialistic wealth.

I swear that I pity you,

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the whole purpose of this thread is that you want people to follow your choices and have your priorities. You seem to think that anybody who doesn't share your world view is cold hearted and materialistic. Others may have chosen other priorities to you, but that does not make them wrong.

lisyloo

I fully understand the difficulties managing older family members.

I went to see my MIL and FIL yesterday.
She has an active mind and useless body.
She is 83 with bad artritis in her knees and cannot go on the bus or really out on her own at all as she is in danger of falling, but wants to go shopping all the time.
Right now she wants a new bathroom, kitchen, table, chairs, draws, corner unit, jigsaw roll etc.

I do sympathise with her situation, but none of this is urgent it's simply because she has nothing to do.
I do care about the in-laws, but I have more urgent jobs needing doing on my own house (like peeling paint on the front door) which are more urgent than the things she things she needs simply because she has nothing more to do.

My husband and I have full time jobs.
Their daughter and partner also have full time jobs, 6 children and about 10 grandchildren and have also been doing some DIY on their own house.

I do sympathise but the MIL is not the only person in my life.
I have a father with prostate cancer, a step-mum who had a triple heart bypass last year and a disabled mother.
I also have a mentally ill sister.
I have to do my own chores in addition to a full time job.
My husband has a very stresful demanding job so I try to support him in any way I can at home, by doing whatever jobs I can to help.
My own job is insecure and that's worrying for me.

I am not being judgemental in the slightest and on first reading I totally agreed with what you said.
But I am wondering whether you have considered everything going on in her life.
I know in my situation that not everything revolves around my MIL (I have 6 parents/step parents to consider) and some of the things she wants are low priority compared with other jobs I have to do.
I do sympathise with her situation because she really needs a carer at all times, but we all have to do our jobs, chores and worry about other people too.

Perhaps you need to LISTEN to your sister and find out what the situation really is.

The_Fox_3

GHOULS=FOOLS wrote: »

Foxy, you're just another embittered renter. Why don't you grow a pair and move on with your sad, pathetic life. good luck

I was at a jacket and tie do at the Union Jack club last night and once again was honoured to share the company of some second world war vets, along with men from other campaigns.

What stands out like a beacon with these old guys is how honourable and proud and humble they are, their decency in many cases makes your eyes water when you hear their storys of comradeship and love for their fellow tommys.

I read your posts this morning Ghoul and am looking at someone at the other end of the decency scale.

lisyloo

I read your posts this morning Ghoul and am looking at someone at the other end of the decency scale.

I am wondering why you ar bothering?
Get on with the good things in your life.
(Me? I'm jsut relaxing on a Sunday morning and about to get on with some stuff).

The_Fox_3

SUFFER_THE_LITTLE_GHOULS wrote: »

You were at no such function. You and your fellow ghouls partake in nothing but downright vindictive lies in a stupid and wholly transparent attempt to pull on others heart-strings. Boo hoo poor you, you rent, and now you want to berate your very own sister. Some of us, like your sister, are exceptional at financial affairs, while others like you not so, so you rent. Get used to it as it's the only class you'll ever be in.

I am here right now, Sandell st London SE1, if you have any bottle(which I doubt) come down and say hi, I will be here until tonight (-:

Let's get one thing straight, I have nothing against anyone buying a property to home themselves and their family's, it is the most honourable and proudest thing most people can do. You can look as hard as you want on this site but you will never hear me putting down normal family home owners, whenever they bought.

My fight is against property speculation and property profiteering in MOST cases, I want to see the end of the type of people that welcome low volumes of housebuilding, mass immigration, poor property design with lack of any kind of ambition in order to keep prices sky high, there is no other essential commodity where we purposely keep prices high. Its evil and wrong and only the greedy want it.

Generali

The_Fox wrote: »

I am here right now, Sandell st London SE1, if you have any bottle(which I doubt) come down and say hi, I will be here until tonight (-:

Union Jack Club or the The Wellington?