This was ranted at me last week.."Its ok for you, you don't have a mortgage"

ILW

Flyboy152 wrote: »

Is that really a serious question?

I don't remember it as being particularly bad, what were the problems?

Flyboy152

ILW wrote: »

I don't remember it as being particularly bad, what were the problems?

I still don't know whether you are being serious or not, it would help if applied some sort of code, a smiley perhaps?

ILW

Flyboy152 wrote: »

I still don't know whether you are being serious or not, it would help if applied some sort of code, a smiley perhaps?

Maybe its age getting to me, but I cannot remember anything that bad in 1997. Happy to be corrected though.

May be because I am in my 50s now and have seen loads of booms and busts. Guess you just get used to it.

Flyboy152

For a start the NHS was very near to collapse; patients dying on trolleys, waiting lists for up to three years etc. People were getting paid as little as a pound an hour; didn't I read something about a Tory MP boasting he paid an assistant only eighty pence an hour? Schools falling down, councils bankrupt..............need I go one?

nicko33

Flyboy152 wrote: »

But then at least they didn't have deficits the size of the Tories though, eh? In eighteen years the Tories were in deficit for just under seventeen (five quarters) of those. Yet all we hear from the Tories is the deficit in the last three years. Conveniently forgetting the devastating condition the country was in, in nineteen ninety-seven.

The deficit on its own isn't the whole story though. What was the total Debt at the time? (Not that I know, I'm just sayin'... so someone else can go find a graph...)

DervProf

julieq wrote: »

Oh come off it DervProf, this has nothing to do with debt.

Whatever it has got to do with, I think critisising his/her actions, then telling him to "!!!!!!" doesn't exactly enhance your argument or show you in a very good light. Maybe it was wrong for The_Fox to air his/her laundry in public, but as I say, no names were mentioned.

Seems like The_Fox has ruffled a few feathers.

zarazara

The_Fox wrote: »

I had a blazing row with one of my sisters last week, it all came about because of the lack of time she was giving to my handicapped mother.
Myself and my two sisters managed to get together to discuss a few things concerning our Mum before all hell broke loose and stuff was said.
The troublesome sister is a go getter, allways has to be seen to be doing better than everyone else, lazy she is not, but her and her very average husband stretch themselves beyond belief and live well outside their means.
I am telling my sister she should be doing this and it might help if she did a little bit more of that, then out of the blue she starts ranting about "it's ok for me".

In short i was told i do not have a huge mortgage, i have a reckless lifestyle where i have no responsibilty, and i have nothing to get stressed about apart from mum.
I basically told her i don't give a s*** about her self inflicted work load, she maybe want to reconsider coming down a peg or two and living within her means, that way she might have time for is really important in life.

I have noted this a lot recently in one form or another, people in huge debt(mainly a huge mortgage) getting all funny with me because i don't have any huger debts or mortgage. I have seen it where they get out of paying for a round to getting out of family and friends duties.

Fox

I'm sorry you have had a row. Your sister sounds under a lot of stress. Lets hope she and her husband see the light,downsize,adjust to a less competative mind set and just enjoy being. They have each other after all. Then she'll be able to do more for your mum.

ILW

Flyboy152 wrote: »

For a start the NHS was very near to collapse; patients dying on trolleys, waiting lists for up to three years etc. People were getting paid as little as a pound an hour; didn't I read something about a Tory MP boasting he paid an assistant only eighty pence an hour? Schools falling down, councils bankrupt..............need I go one?

I have to be honest, I never noticed at the time. Just getting on with things I suppose.

Did you actually see any schools fall down?

I was never an MPs assistant so it is not my affair if they want to work for 80p per hour.

Thinking it, about 1997 was an OK year as far as I am concerned.

I was actually making more money then than I am now.

Loughton_Monkey

ILW wrote: »

Thinking it, about 1997 was an OK year as far as I am concerned.

I was actually making more money then than I am now.

I thought that comment strange, too. So I looked at my voluminous accounts.

Phew! Record year for me [although I bettered it in future years]. Investment income was more than double the previous year. Managed to get my tax down by 30% (stuffed rather a lot into pensions at higher rate relief I recall). Rise in house value 50% higher than previous year's rise. Banked an overall 'surplus' of £74K

Didn't see any schools fall down. Patients dying on trolleys is quite normal every year. MP's still pay assistants nothing. Unpaid 'Research Assistants' hoping to get something full time with pay. It's illegal to pay less than min wage, but perfectly legal to pay zero.

ILW

Loughton_Monkey wrote: »

I thought that comment strange, too. So I looked at my voluminous accounts.

Phew! Record year for me [although I bettered it in future years]. Investment income was more than double the previous year. Managed to get my tax down by 30% (stuffed rather a lot into pensions at higher rate relief I recall). Rise in house value 50% higher than previous year's rise. Banked an overall 'surplus' of £74K

Didn't see any schools fall down. Patients dying on trolleys is quite normal every year. MP's still pay assistants nothing. Unpaid 'Research Assistants' hoping to get something full time with pay. It's illegal to pay less than min wage, but perfectly legal to pay zero.

Looks like it was just Flyboy that had a problem with it then.

Think things did improve a lot for teenage mothers and the workshy under GBs reign though.