Not sure how to do this ....

Errata

VjbMusher wrote: »

Hi,
Sorry to hear what you're going through. Someone I know was recently diagnosed with cancer. Has anyone here ever heard about vitamin B17 found in apricot kernels? I found this online....

http://www.naturalnews.com/027088_cancer_laetrile_health.html
I don't know too much about it yet as I've only started looking into this but I'm hoping it will be of some help.

Wishing you all the best

Sorry - not helpful at all. The Daily Mail is always printing suspect information and 'cures'.

"But Cancer Research UK's website reference to B17 says: "According to claims made on the Internet, this substance found in apricot pips is a highly active compound that can cure cancer.
"Unfortunately this is simply not true. The whole reason for the existence of Cancer Research UK is to find cures for cancers. If simply eating apricot seeds could cure cancer, no one would be more delighted than us."
The FSA's warning follows the advice of its Committee on Toxicity regarding bitter apricot kernels."

Flyboy152

Errata wrote: »

Sorry - not helpful at all. The Daily Mail is always printing suspect information and 'cures'.

"But Cancer Research UK's website reference to B17 says: "According to claims made on the Internet, this substance found in apricot pips is a highly active compound that can cure cancer.
"Unfortunately this is simply not true. The whole reason for the existence of Cancer Research UK is to find cures for cancers. If simply eating apricot seeds could cure cancer, no one would be more delighted than us."
The FSA's warning follows the advice of its Committee on Toxicity regarding bitter apricot kernels."

According to the Daily Heil, everything causes cancer and cures it as well.

VjbMusher

Errata wrote: »

Sorry - not helpful at all. The Daily Mail is always printing suspect information and 'cures'.

"But Cancer Research UK's website reference to B17 says: "According to claims made on the Internet, this substance found in apricot pips is a highly active compound that can cure cancer.
"Unfortunately this is simply not true. The whole reason for the existence of Cancer Research UK is to find cures for cancers. If simply eating apricot seeds could cure cancer, no one would be more delighted than us."
The FSA's warning follows the advice of its Committee on Toxicity regarding bitter apricot kernels."

I would never quote Daily mail lol. A snippet from the link I provided from Natural news..

'Keep in mind that the cancer industry world wide is estimated at a 200 billion dollar a year industry. ' - This is what makes me want to investigate B17 further.

Errata

I would never quote Daily mail

Why not, the DM wrote about it in 2006 !
As someone being treated for cancer, and living with it, I would no more take notice of some bizarre American website carrying information about yet another 'cure for cancer big pharma doesn't want you to know about' than I'd perform my own lumpectomy.

poly1

Can I just say thank you all for your replies, I have not had time to read thru all properly yet but I will do later. Unfortunately our 'problem' appears to be we are really in quite a rural area and everywhere is miles away which of course never really seemed a problem until now! But as I said will get back to you all later as now have to sort the dinner!

VjbMusher

Errata wrote: »

Why not, the DM wrote about it in 2006 !
As someone being treated for cancer, and living with it, I would no more take notice of some bizarre American website carrying information about yet another 'cure for cancer big pharma doesn't want you to know about' than I'd perform my own lumpectomy.

I do not rely on the Daily mail or any web site alone for information, although I posted a link Natural news because the information is easy to digest. Although the Daily Mail wrote about Laetrile (the active ingredient in Apricot pits) in 2006, the subject of whether it can fight cancer has been a subject of scientific controversy since the 70's.

I truly am saddened by the story of this lady, especially having lost family to cancer myself and I wish I only knew back then what I know now.

Leaving aside websites, scientific journals say the following about Laetrile:

Current understanding on the effects of Laetrile are not conclusive because scientists must rely on ambiguous results from trials in the 70's. There is not enough evidence to prove or disporove the effectiveness of Laetrile and more trials are required. [Milazzo, Ernst, Lejeune, Boehmsue, 2009]. Although the results of the trials of 1978 have been used to dismiss claims of the positive effects of Laetrile, moden analysis of the results suggests that there may be strong evidence to the contrary. In order to prove conclusively however, a controlled trial must be carried out since the trials of the 70's were not contolled and therefore not scientific. [Krashen, 2008].

Strange then that the cancer research web site can dismiss Laetrile (Vitamin B17) so easily when there have in fact been no proper scientific trials. Shouldn't cancer research prove this one way or another?

Research on Laetrile is difficult to approve legally due it being banned by the FDA in the late 70's. It was prevented from being imported and transported in the US on the premise that the US governement was protecting cancer sufferers from a false remedy. The FDA used a controversial "new drug" law to achive this although there was much opposition at the time because Laetrile, vitmain B17, is a food substance and not a drug. [Schwartz, 1979]

It seems then that Letrile was banned for political reasons before further studies could be carried out. This is only some of the information available and I will continue to research the subject, I just hope you do the same.

References

Stefania Milazzo, Edzard Ernst, Stephane Lejeune, Katja Boehmsue - Laetrile treatment for cancer, The Cochrane Library 2009

Krashen, Stephen D - Inaccurate Reporting of the Effects of Laetrile: Mistreatment of Ellison, Byar and Newell (1978) in Professional Papers. - Internet Journal of Alternative Medicine; 2008, Vol. 6 Issue 2, p4-4

Schwartz, Robert L. - American Bar Association Journal; Feb79, Vol. 65 Issue 2, p224

Errata

VjbMusher - You may mean well, however could I suggest this is not the thread for you to post this information. If you wish to inform people about this, which has been "the subject of whether it can fight cancer has been a subject of scientific controversy since the 70's." that you start a new thread about it.

VjbMusher

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VjbMusher - You may mean well, however could I suggest this is not the thread for you to post this information. If you wish to inform people about this, which has been "the subject of whether it can fight cancer has been a subject of scientific controversy since the 70's." that you start a new thread about it.

Yes, I'm sorry to have gone on a bit. This will be the last I will respond. It's because you quoted my post unhelpful I felt I had to back up with scientific reports as I understand many people have never heard of it (I hadn't). Anyway, good luck to all of you- Wishing you all a long and happy future

poly1

Thank you for all your replies, I just really needed to get out everything that I was worrying about as it makes it seem a little less! You have made some really good suggestions and I will take some time to get through them. One thing I will ask is I was assigned a BCN from the start but I have never been assigned a macmillan nurse, I just sort of assumed that you just got one not both, but I notice that some of you have been there a done it (so to speak) so maybe I am not right there?

I think I am just finding things hard right now, as it still (even though I am now half way thru chemo) doesn't quite feel real to me. I am absolutely terrified of the surgery but this is because I have a hugely complicated medical history (thought I had 'done my time' so to speak in hospitals) and have had numerous stays in hospital before.

On the money front the reason our income is low currently is because unfortunately my OH gave up work to rebuild the house and I was the one who went to work (he became a self builder/househusband!) so the only income we have at the moment is mine but we have already started spending much less in order to save it for when SSP ends.

Some one mentioned King's holiday clubs or some such thing, unfortunately none run anywhere near us but does anyone know of any similar things (even residential) for DD1 (13)?

Errata

Poly - ask your GP to refer you to Macmillan as a matter of urgency. Mine was fantastic and sorted out problems at the speed of light! If Macmillan can't do something, they always know someone who can and seem to carry a lot of clout. They will also know about the availability of places for your DD because they support the family as well as the patient. HTH