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Advice please???
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...You would be found guilty of theft if this was reported to the police and they prosecuted you...
What's wrong with that?
It's a prediction.
Gandalf should be aware magistrates, juries and defendants convict, policemen don't.0 -
NeverAgain wrote: »...You would be found guilty of theft if this was reported to the police and they prosecuted you...
What's wrong with that?
It's a prediction.
Gandalf should be aware magistrates, juries and defendants convict, policemen don't.
Eh?................0 -
...Eh?...
If you plead guilty, you are convicted by that guilty plea.
Hence, you are convicting yourself.
No one else is responsible for the conviction, only you.0 -
You would be found guilty of theft if this was reported to the police and they prosecuted you.
Extremely unlikely:
Theft Act 1968 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/60/section/1
"A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it"
There is no dishonestly this circumstance. It's just that a contractually agreed payment has not been made. That's a civil matter not a criminal one.We need the earth for food, water, and shelter.
The earth needs us for nothing.
The earth does not belong to us.
We belong to the Earth0 -
denttechwales wrote: »i purchased a vehicle for 4995. i part ex'd my car for 500 and agreed to pay 1300 deposit with 3195 for finance. i signed the form and the finance was put in place. when i went to pick up the car i signed my part ex over and the logbook for the new car. deal sealed. however, the salesman forgot to ask for the 1300 deposit and i had driven off in the new car when i realised. DO I HAVE TO PAY IF HE RINGS ME?? i will if i legally have to of course, just interested to know the law on this
And what will you tell the salesman who had just been sacked for releasing a car without taking full payment. You knew you had to pay, but walked out without giving him the money; that is theft. Then you have the audacity to post on here to ask for advice on how to not pay the money you owe.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
thenudeone wrote: »Extremely unlikely:
Theft Act 1968 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/60/section/1
"A person is guilty of theft if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it"
There is no dishonestly this circumstance. It's just that a contractually agreed payment has not been made. That's a civil matter not a criminal one.
I'll remember that the next time I am in Sainsbury's. The OP knew he had to pay, he knew how much, but he deliberately drove off without paying. Now he is trying avoid paying.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
In addition to the above comments, no doubt the deposit amount is mentioned on the paperwork so there is this to consider unless you have additional proof that it has been paid which you obvioulsy don't. Easy for them to persue then me thinks.
And certainly grounds for the finance company to repossess the car.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
Gandalfthesecond wrote: »Get your facts right.
He would be found guilty without a conviction would he?
Aah, but the police don't convict, a court does that.
The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
I'll remember that the next time I am in Sainsbury's. The OP knew he had to pay, he knew how much, but he deliberately drove off without paying. Now he is trying avoid paying.
Except that in this case it wasn't deliberate (according to the account given) and there's nothing to suggest it was deliberate. Therefore no offence.We need the earth for food, water, and shelter.
The earth needs us for nothing.
The earth does not belong to us.
We belong to the Earth0 -
thenudeone wrote: »Except that in this case it wasn't deliberate (according to the account given) and there's nothing to suggest it was deliberate. Therefore no offence.
He went there knowing how much he needed to pay, he left the showroom without paying and is now trying to find ways to avoid paying it at all.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0
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