Didn't pass residence test! Help!

jackomdj

What are you doing o your gap year? Could you get a job???

themull1

Gap year? must be nice!! Get a job.

Mischa8

I_know_my_ABC_and_my_CMYK wrote: »

Are you always such an abusive person, Mischa8?

No, I am not generally abusive.

I actually feel sorry for the OP but they appear to have no means of supporting themselves other than the father and the British benefits system.

Just for further info. My grandfather was actually born in Luxembourg, so he was a Luxembourg citizen by birth. Due to his father's work he eventually moved with his mother/father/siblings to Germany as a young boy/teenager. His father worked as a private secretary to Count Mettinick (see later para).

For other info - my grandfather was eventually a Sergeant in the British army (due to his being dual nationality) but he wasn't allowed further than Sergeant owing to his mother being German. He was actually used by the British army to go into French villages and use his French/German and spy on the villagers there.

For the record, my grandfather actually came to England from Germany (his father was dual nationality English/French) I believe some time in after WW1.

He got a job in London. His father also had the means to support him, if need be, should he not have a job. My grandfather I believe through being a dual national had the right to live and work in England. My grandfather did eventually claim a pension from British Government when he retired, after years of working and paying NI and UK tax.

You should also note that when my grandfather brought his mother (German citizen) over to the UK for safety reasons, he thought she would not be safe as an old lady in Germany and he supported her by working (she could not stay in Germany any more as her home had been taken by the Nazis and her husband was actually interned in a hard labour camp by the Nazis for being dual national English/French - this was despite working for someone called Count Mettinick (Luxembourg).

My great grandmother being German was subjected to verbal abuse by English shopkeepers during and after WW2 but she had her own money, was wealthy and would never have dreamed of claiming from UK Government, of course this wasn't able to happen back then anyway.

I am merely stating FACTS.

And as you can see from the above - I know EXACTLY about discrimination.

Enterprise_1701C

Just out of curiosity, what advice would the OP give to an English persons living in Germany who finds themselves in the same position?

donquine

Regardless of what any of you may or may not think about immigration, the facts remain that the OP is presumably a real person having a hard time who has asked for help. I would respectfully request that we keep the debate on EU movement to the Arms.

OP, if you're still reading this, have you considered the suggestion about your family (not necessarily with you) moving back to Germany? I realise your grandparents are dead and you therefore may not have anyone to put a roof over your heads for free, but surely being German will entitle you to some sort of benefit? You've already established that you cannot claim anything in this country.

I'm sure your mum didn't choose to be stuck in a foreign country without any money and she's been badly let down by your 'dad', so don't take any of the nasty comments to heart. Sometimes life just doesn't go to plan at all.

silverchair

I dont mean to pry, but how disabled is your mother? If she is housebound, would she be able to do some kind of work from home? Even surveys that can up her income. What qualifications does she have? She may be able to mark exam papers.
You really need to get a full time job if you are in a gap year. There is absolutely no reason why you shouldnt be working. I would get any paid job even if your mother isnt in this situation it would help you support yourself while at uni. Try to go to a uni where the rents tend to be cheap (e.g no where in the southeast of England). While at university again you should be working. I had quite a full on degree course however, still worked some evenings, weekends & every holiday (as a student you get very long holidays).

Im sorry this has happened to you especially to your younger siblings who probably had no say in the matter of coming over here. But you & your mother need to be a lot more proactive about finding employment & other means of help from family members rather than just relying on the state.

Look at how you can reduce your expenditure. You may need to move to another part of the country (if remaining in the UK) where rents are cheaper. I know that will mean leaving schools, but that may have to be an option, people have to do this all the time (for job relocations etc)

Ma_Boswell

If the OP came here in '05 as part of a family and is now a student they presumably had no real choice in the matter -ie "Dad" came here to work, bringing his family. "Dad" has now disappeared and this poor young person is trying to look after younger siblings who have spent a major part of their lives in this country. If they satisfied the residency requirements when the absconding father was working here it seems wrong to penalise them because that person has abandoned them. OP if you are still reading, do try the Home Office as has been suggested or see if you can get any free advice from one of the immigration charities - and as has also been suggested your University should have an Advice Office of some kind. I do hope you and your family get some positive help.

silverchair

I have to disagree with you . Their mother is an adult & therefore also had a say in the matter. She may have chosen to remain quiet on the matter who knows??

Ma_Boswell

I do agree that the mother has her responsibility to the family too - it would help to know more about her health. I am just surprised that there is no provision in EU legislation for this eventuality - it must have happened before and as the younger children were dependants of a person who satisfied the residence qualification it seems harsh to penalise them because their father has abandoned them.

silverchair

I think it must be seen that the OP are not being forcibly deported out of the country (like some unfortunates), they just cant afford to pay their rent & the state is not willing to help them pay their rent. Its therefore important for them to find alternative means to pay/afford their rent. For example if you live in an London, then you need to move out of London. Also they original come from a fairly decent country which still has a safety net (benefits, health care, work opportunities, fairly safe etc) for its citizens. Again not like a lot of the people who are being deported back to their home countries which may infact be a war torn country.
Therefore you & your family did have to go back to Germany it may not be such an awful thing & there may end up being more opportunities for you. But again your family really do need to be more proactive (I suppose writing on this forum was one step), but I would be moving away from reliance on state help as it can end up being an awful trap