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Migrants free to claim full benefits

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  • Latvian Average Salary 2009 = £6,500 (ish)

    Annual Salary at UK minimum wage = £12,000 (ish)
    Maximum benefits for large family = £25,000 (ish)

    Latvian Population = 2.2 million

    Now tell me how many Latvian families will not migrate to UK?

    Put it another way. You are slaving away in this country earning average salary £25K a year. You learn that by going to (say) Portugal they had a benefits system that would pay you around £80K to £100K a year for sitting around watching Sky TV all day. Why would you not migrate to Portugal?
  • ultrawomble
    ultrawomble Posts: 492 Forumite
    A more balanced and informative view here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12633382
  • robin_banks
    robin_banks Posts: 15,778 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    edited 3 March 2011 at 12:44PM
    Latvian Average Salary 2009 = £6,500 (ish)

    Annual Salary at UK minimum wage = £12,000 (ish)
    Maximum benefits for large family = £25,000 (ish)

    Latvian Population = 2.2 million

    Now tell me how many Latvian families will not migrate to UK?

    Put it another way. You are slaving away in this country earning average salary £25K a year. You learn that by going to (say) Portugal they had a benefits system that would pay you around £80K to £100K a year for sitting around watching Sky TV all day. Why would you not migrate to Portugal?

    Get your facts straight.


    A person with no recourse to public funds (NRPF) is someone who is subject to immigration control (from non-EU countries abroad) and has no entitlement to welfare benefits (for example, who is not a permanent resident), or to Border and Immigration Agency (BIA) support for asylum seekers. Typically, services and benefits from which NRPF people are excluded from include
    • help with housing from the local authority
    • attendance allowance
    • carers allowance (previously invalid care allowance)
    • child benefit
    • council tax benefit
    • disability living allowance
    • housing benefit
    • income support
    • income-based jobseeker’s allowance
    • severe disablement allowance
    • social fund payments
    • child tax credit
    • working tax credit
    • pension credit
    Typically, homeless people in this category will be nationals of the Central and Eastern European states and failed asylum seekers who do not qualify for or have not registered for Section 4 support.
    People from the EU accession states, also termed Central and Eastern European countries (CEEs) are allowed to come to the UK and work, but they do not receive public benefits like other European Union citizens. Nationals of EU10 countries, apart from Romania and Bulgaria, can join the worker registration scheme, which entitles them to reside in the UK and work here as long as they register as soon as they find employment. After one year of continuous employment, they can apply for residency. Romanians and Bulgarians, while able to enter the UK for up to three months freely, have to get permission to work and can only stay in the UK longer than three months without a work permit if they are a) a student b) self employed c) self sufficient d) have completed 12 months continuous employment in the UK e) are married to a UK national f) are a family member of an EU citizen. If they cannot show they are in one of these categories, they may be breaking the law by staying in the UK more than three months. They will not be entitled to any benefits. Currently, if an EU10 national has been unemployed for over one month they are without access to public funds.


    Source : http://handbooks.homeless.org.uk/streetoutreach/deliveringquality/engagement/norecourse
    "An arrogant and self-righteous Guardian reading tvv@t".

    !!!!!! is all that about?
  • A more balanced and informative view here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12633382


    Balanced is not a word I would use to describe the BBC's reporting
  • robin_banks
    robin_banks Posts: 15,778 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Balanced is not a word I would use to describe the BBC's reporting

    That's basically a DWP press release anyway.
    "An arrogant and self-righteous Guardian reading tvv@t".

    !!!!!! is all that about?
  • The_Fox_3
    The_Fox_3 Posts: 299 Forumite
    Sibley wrote: »
    Yes, the only good thing about this is it will keep house prices rising. Even that doesn't cheer me up reading the article. We are sitting ducks in the UK. No other country would be stupid enough to offer this.


    Typicall

    You would be quite happy living in a over crowded toilet as long as house prices keep going up, ******* incredible and quite typical "property investor"
  • Mr_Mumble
    Mr_Mumble Posts: 1,758 Forumite
    A more balanced and informative view here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12633382
    If by balanced you mean factually wrong ;) ...
    The_Times wrote:
    More than 100,000 Eastern European migrants
    Estimates in The Times suggest as many as 100,000 migrants
    "The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else." -- Frederic Bastiat, 1848.
  • ultrawomble
    ultrawomble Posts: 492 Forumite
    That's churnalism for you ;)
  • blueboy43
    blueboy43 Posts: 575 Forumite
    According to the ONS the net long term migration in the year to Sep 2009 from the A8 countries was actually negative.

    More A8 long term migrants left the UK than arrived !

    Who'd have thought it.

    As far as the 100,000 number goes, there are more than 1/2 million Poles living in the UK at the moment. Or are we saying Poles good, Latvians bad ?

    (Bulgarians and Romanians aren't even part of the A8 group.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    These migrants from old time EU seem to be having a tough time of it icon9.gif
    I need your help. We're a german family who moved to london on the 1/5/05, my "dad" was working in the beginning and we passed the residence test, he then broke his back and were receiving housing benefit & income support. Now after 5 years there has been a change in circumstances recently, my "dad" divorced my mum (she's disabled and has 3 children excluding me).

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3088696
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
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