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Are people like me middle class?
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Class isn't about possessions nor money. It's about lifestyle such as whether you prefer bingo to opera.0
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Loanranger wrote: »Class isn't about possessions nor money. It's about lifestyle such as whether you prefer bingo to opera.0
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Loanranger wrote: »Class isn't about possessions nor money. It's about lifestyle such as whether you prefer bingo to opera.0
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Yep, me too. But I'll only sit in the best seats at Covent Garden and prefer to eat at Le Manoir au Quat Saisons but can't afford to do much of any of that these days.0
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Up until 30 years ago, class largely determined by material wealth. Today it's largely shaped by attitudes, worldview and what you choose to spend your money on.
Most of the new middle class are poorer than the new working class. They will be teachers, public sector middle management, lecturers. But their world view will be vastly different. They will buy books, instead of the Sun. They will spend a huge amount of their small income on a week in Provence or City Breaks to Budapest, instead of a week in Marbella.
Many of the working class - epitomised by Loadasamoney - likely have good money, particularly if they are semi-skilled, yet use it differently, think differently etc etc.
Class definitions are not what they used to be. Maggie changed that world for ever.0 -
Does it realy matter what class we are.
I look at it this way,does'nt matter what you've got.
It's whether it makes you happy or else its worthless and you can't take it with you in the end anyway.
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Class is shaped more by education and societal place than by money.
Some of the Upper Class have become desperately poor..... Whilst some of the working class have become obscenely rich. But in general, their class will not change with their bank balance.
A working class man can win the lottery, buy a mansion, buy a Rolls, buy some land, but he'll still be a working class man at heart. An upper class man can lose his fortune, but still act and think like an Aristocrat. These things are bred into you, and difficult, if not impossible, to change in a single generation.
You can take the Chav out of the council estate, but you can never take the council estate out of the Chav.....“The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.
Belief in myths allows the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought.”
-- President John F. Kennedy”0 -
Interesting post. If a car could ever describe their owner perfectly, it would be a BMW M Sport. I don't like to stereotype or generalise normally but I find anyone who drives a M sport BMW to be an obnoxious !!!!!!. No offence, its not quite expensive enough to show you actually have substancial money, but flashy enough to make you think that you have. I find them to be very poorly made, slow (not sure why it even gets M sport) very boring to drive and without any character, can't actually think of anything the car does well actually? Its a handbag that you can drive. Pretty suitable for their owners really.
I don't think income has much to do with wealth or class anymore, within your bracket anyways (less than 50k), I know of people who earn 30k combined salary who are in a substantially better situation to people who earn 50k combined due to choices. Personally I think you'd be better of buying less suits and saving £1000pcm instead of 500.0 -
Chestnut cut down on your own land and hand crafted by a virgin in the image of a Goddess means class ;o)))
I just have a plastic bucket from Wickes, cost me 99p ;o)))))
:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:"there are some persons in this World who, unable to give better proof of being wise, take a strange delight in showing what they think they have sagaciously read in mankind by uncharitable suspicions of them"(Herman Melville)0
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