What are the DLA Rules-procedure Now[2011] Compared to 2 years ago

Deal_Chaser

sonorman wrote: »

From what I hear you will be assessed by specialist trained staff of ATOS that are more knowledgable than pure medical people (GP's Consultants etc that only deal with the diagnosis and treatment side).

I personally would feel more comfortable with dealing with a specialist in disability needs than a GP or Consultant who I might see once every 3/6 months for 10mins at a time.

If you had a BMW car where would you take it for a service? Some back street gararge that normally deals with simple oil changes of any car or a specialist BMW dealer who is an expert in that one particular car?

I know where I take my BMW to, for everything and anything.

I disagree with the comments of back street consultants who have vast experience and know your disbilities esp when you have been dealing them for years. How can you have an ATOS assessment that might last I don't know 30 mins and unless they are multi talented in all illnesses ie multi disabilities inc rare genetic ones that even most in medical profession are unaware of?
I think it is an intrusion I have already been medically assessed by people who are qualified, I am extremely independant and put off DLA claim for ie 30yrs and been in f/time employment. it took me a lot of courage to discuss my disbilities & still many people do not know full extent of them! Before you say that I will be fine because I am truely disabled I will be fine ..... There are stll going be winners/losers & some hoax ones that slip thru the net hence what is the difference other than more bureaucracy, cost = less money to pay out in DLA esp in these hard times......???

melbury

Blitz01 wrote: »

You could always try engaging your brain before spouting such utter, idiotic rubbush.
My daughter is severely disabled, and i would swap that in flash for the sake of a car.

BTW.....I pay over £1500 PER MONTH in income tax, so i would suspect, that with that figure, i am subsiding YOUR lifestyle somewhere along the line rather than you subsidising me.

You could have tried actually reading my post before coming back with such vitriolic comments. I did say "except for the most disabled...." or perhaps you think that every person who gets this benefit is very disabled then.

As for having to state the amount of income tax that you pay per month (and in bold) why? I can't even imagine the size of the salary you must get to pay that amount of tax.

You do not subsidise me in any way. I work full time, but sadly my salary per month is less than the amount you pay in income tax.

TOBRUK

Jane_gs wrote: »

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(I am not on about the Universal credit thing, which will be in some years)

- but just asking about DLA rules for this year, are they different to 2 years ago?

No changes as yet to DLA. They are going to in future change the system with change of rates with mobility and care etc. The government have not yet disclosed what it will entail - they are still working it out!!

I think they will change the name and criteria. I'm sure there will be more details (of their their intentions) in the April budget. There is absolutely no point in worrying about it or speculating until the changes are announced.

When they do announce their plans there will then be discussions, disapprovals etc in the house of commons regarding these issues.

It will take some time before they can put changes in place.

sonorman

TOBRUK wrote: »

No changes as yet to DLA. They are going to in future change the system with change of rates with mobility and care etc. The government have not yet disclosed what it will entail - they are still working it out!!

I think they will change the name and criteria. I'm sure there will be more details (of their their intentions) in the April budget. There is absolutely no point in worrying about it or speculating until the changes are announced.

When they do announce their plans there will then be discussions, disapprovals etc in the house of commons regarding these issues.

It will take some time before they can put changes in place.

As a point of interest, how long did it take the labour government to bring in ESA after they decided IB wasn't working?

Once you have the answer to that, then you can work out how quick the new PIP will be enacted.

Tobermory

melbury wrote: »

You could have tried actually reading my post before coming back with such vitriolic comments. I did say "except for the most disabled...." or perhaps you think that every person who gets this benefit is very disabled then.

Only those on the High Rate Mobility of DLA qualify to swap their benefit for a Motability car ... arn't those people disabled enough for you ?

dmg24

Tobermory wrote: »

Only those on the High Rate Mobility of DLA qualify to swap their benefit for a Motability car ... arn't those people disabled enough for you ?

I can't speak for melbury, but I have experienced a fair few HRM claimants who are far more able than one would assume you would need to be to qualify.

Tobermory

To qualify for HRM you need to be 'unable or virtually unable to walk due to physical disablement'. If you mean people are lying to obtain HRM that is a different conversation.

dmg24

Tobermory wrote: »

To qualify for HRM you need to be 'unable or virtually unable to walk due to physical disablement'. If you mean people are lying to obtain HRM that is a different conversation.

There is also a mental health descriptor for HRM. The virtually unable to walk and the MH descriptor are both open to interpretation, as can be seen if you look at the case law on this subject.

Tobermory

Yes, I agree there are other criteria (I was trying to edit my post but you beat me to it) - my point is anyone meeting the HRM criteria truthfully is surely 'disabled enough' for the other poster.

sonorman

dmg24 wrote: »

I can't speak for melbury, but I have experienced a fair few HRM claimants who are far more able than one would assume you would need to be to qualify.

Yeah, and I know quite a few that are 'virtually unable to walk' yet manage to engage in sport, cycling and the odd one that runs a HGV business where he can be found quite regularly trunking up and down the A1 with up to 44tonnes of vehicle under him!