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Grant Shapps, start building homes you ****

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  • Just to clarify, that's 300,000 homes A YEAR, every year for the next decade.

    And even that would only be enough to keep house prices stagnant in real terms.

    What was the population of the UK is, say, 1990, and what is it now? How many new homes have been built since then?
  • What was the population of the UK is, say, 1990, and what is it now? How many new homes have been built since then?

    Just roughly
    http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&met=sp_pop_totl&idim=country:GBR&dl=en&hl=en&q=uk+population

    1990 = 57,247,586

    2009 = 61,838,154

    Net increase = 4,590,568 in the last 19 years
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  • Just roughly
    http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&met=sp_pop_totl&idim=country:GBR&dl=en&hl=en&q=uk+population

    1990 = 57,247,586

    2009 = 61,838,154

    Net increase = 4,590,568 in the last 19 years

    And accelerating....

    Now increasing at 400,000 people per year.

    And 250,000 new additional households per year.
    “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth, persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic.

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  • You might want to start emailing Eric Pickles as well...
    The very biggest issue is NIMBY's....and they are everywhere, literally
    Once house prices fall to an affordable level then maybe housebuilders will find that there's a demand again for FTB units.

    http://www.building.co.uk/sectors/housing/home-truths-localism-and-development/5012928.article
    ..show that since Pickles scrapped regional strategies in May, plans for 216,459 homes have been abandoned by local councils no longer coerced into accepting them. The consultancy estimates 300,000 planned homes could ultimately be scrapped, a tenth of the total the previous government wanted to build by 2020
    The bill also contains a raft of measures that are causing great concern - from a wholly new neighbourhood tier of the planning system, to giving local interest groups the right to veto development on “valuable” local sites while they try buy them
    One example of how this brave new world might come unstuck is a development of 10 homes by housing association West Mercia in a village called Clent... However, residents around the development have campaigned bitterly against homes being sited on “the Pleck”, the pleasant copse they walk their dogs on....

    ..Under the proposals in the Localism Bill the campaigners could try to generate their own neighbourhood plan as it needs only three local people to propose a plan, which then goes to a referendum.


    The proposed Localism Bill is not exactly helping matters along much.
    It all seems so stupid it makes me want to give up.
    But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid ?
  • DervProf
    DervProf Posts: 4,035 Forumite
    Just to clarify, that's 300,000 homes A YEAR, every year for the next decade.

    And even that would only be enough to keep house prices stagnant in real terms.

    Isn't there a :beer: missing in this post ?
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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    And accelerating....

    Now increasing at 400,000 people per year.

    And 250,000 new additional households per year.

    Are we really breeding that fast?

    Possiibly addressing that should be a priority.
  • ILW wrote: »
    Are we really breeding that fast?

    Not just breeding. Migration and living longer play a part as well.
    Possiibly addressing that should be a priority.

    Well you can't stop Europeans moving here (which is most of the migration), and forced euthanasia or sterilization probably wouldn't be such a popular policy....
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  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    So a mix of policies designed to stop population growth, could go a long way to solving the housing shortage?
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    ILW wrote: »
    So a mix of policies designed to stop population growth, could go a long way to solving the housing shortage?

    Cutting benefits will put a dampner on population growth.

    It's no real coincidence that the bar chart moves north from 2000-2009. Benefits extravaganza years.
  • A house building boom is exactly what the government and councils don't want. And saying that these are the two groups that matter most in the planning process, house building is set to remain very low for a very long time.
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