Not the driver argument

KingFelix

Long time reader, first time poster. Advice needed please!!!

If, say, I had a "friend" who had approx. 47 parking invoices sent to him by PPC and debt collection agencies for parking charges, and if say my "friend" had always claimed to be not the driver and has never paid one of these invoices, and say my "friend" had perhaps been rather cheeky and cocky at times with some of these PPC's and debt collectors in how he has responded to them ...

... should my friend now be concerned that these companies may come back to collect these charges IF the new Freedom Bill comes into effect which makes the registered keeper, not the driver, liable for these charges? Or will it only apply to parking charges issued after the Freedom Bill comes into affect?

Just need to advice from the experts on here, don't want to suddenly find out that my friend has to pay out £5000+ for all the tickets my friend has received!!!

PS love this site, thanks a bunch everyone!!!

KingFelix

12 views and no answers, please guys, need to plan how my friend is going to park when going to Tesco tomorrow, in the parent bays at the front or all the way at the back in the cowboys normal bays haha!

anewman

New laws are usually not retrospective. I.e. the clampers could not be prosecuted for having clamped vehicles in the past once the law makes it an offence.

KingFelix

anewman wrote: »

New laws are usually not retrospective. I.e. the clampers could not be prosecuted for having clamped vehicles in the past once the law makes it an offence.

THANKS MATE!!! JUST WHAT I WANTED TO HEAR! :money:

Any ideas when this will all change then so I can let my friend know?

It's going to be a !!!!!! when my friend can't !!!! off the warden any more by parking across two disabled bays, but in the mean time, he'll do it until the new laws comes into affect like it's going out of fashion!

TAKE THAT YOU SCA***ERS.
:beer::beer::mad:

chunkychocky

KingFelix wrote: »

It's going to be a !!!!!! when my friend can't !!!! off the warden any more by parking across two disabled bays, but in the mean time, he'll do it until the new laws comes into affect like it's going out of fashion!

Presumably you have just written things like this to annoy the majority of law abiding caring people who would never in a million years think to park in a disabled space when they aren't disabled never mind in two spaces...but why? Why go to the effort to get people riled?

peter_the_piper

Don't forget that when the tickets have got to a certain level some ppc's have been known to take a chance at court, and they have been known to win (rarely of course) cos the judge thought they were taking the p**s, amongst other things.

KingFelix

peter_the_piper wrote: »

Don't forget that when the tickets have got to a certain level some ppc's have been known to take a chance at court, and they have been known to win (rarely of course) cos the judge thought they were taking the p**s, amongst other things.

I've never heard of a PPC taking anyone to court, My mate told me that the ones that get taken to court are basically where the PPC PAYS the defendant to lose in court so they can claim it as a "result in their favour.

Any besides if it goes to court they'll be about 100 people across the inetrnet who would want to help me. There is another website where basically they challenge the PPC to a duel in court [none of them every take it up - funny that] so if it ever went to court all of the people from the forum would come and defend - love to see the look on the scammers faces when they turn upo in their tracksuits and I have 100 parking experts backing me up, haha. :money:

peter_the_piper

OK, but don't come crying back here when it comes back to bite "your friend"

And I think Pepipoo and CAG will say the same, they are more forthright than most on here.

KingFelix

chunkychocky wrote: »

Presumably you have just written things like this to annoy the majority of law abiding caring people who would never in a million years think to park in a disabled space when they aren't disabled never mind in two spaces...but why? Why go to the effort to get people riled?

Sorry mate, it's not to upset anyone ... just the scammers for all the money they scam from others. My friend does it to try and waste PPC resources so that they can't spend time chasing old women and children who can't defend themselves and woukd end up paying these illegal invoices.

My friend does it to help other people, defeating the scammers and wasting their time to save everyone else money and to try and oput the PPC's out of business once and for all so our car parks are once again free of wardens and their silly scams.

Sirdan

chunkychocky wrote: »

Presumably you have just written things like this to annoy the majority of law abiding caring people who would never in a million years think to park in a disabled space when they aren't disabled never mind in two spaces...but why? Why go to the effort to get people riled?

I spy PPC troll !!
Trying to bring people who won't be bullied into paying them into disrepute.

The vast majority here do not deliberately park in diasbled spaces or parent spaces when not entitled to or indeed not pay in a P & D.

TROLL ! Kingfelix new poster, posting objectionable parking practices that the vast majority would never condone.

Now where did I put my ignore button ??

Sirdan

KingFelix wrote: »

Sorry mate, it's not to upset anyone ... just the scammers for all the money they scam from others. My friend does it to try and waste PPC resources so that they can't spend time chasing old women and children who can't defend themselves and woukd end up paying these illegal invoices.

My friend does it to help other people, defeating the scammers and wasting their time to save everyone else money and to try and oput the PPC's out of business once and for all so our car parks are once again free of wardens and their silly scams.

Too little too late ..why don't I believe you ?