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You have to have insurance if car is off road

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  • NeverInDebt
    NeverInDebt Posts: 4,633 Forumite
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    No title says

    You have to have insurance if car is off road


    What is the point of this, it does not and will not stop drivers who break the law with no insurance and no road tax

    Calm down

    raskazz wrote: »
    Please come back when you have read the thread. You won't have to buy insurance if the car is declared SORN with the DVLA - that is the whole point of this discussion for God's sake.
  • raskazz
    raskazz Posts: 2,877 Forumite
    edited 8 February 2011 at 10:15PM
    mikey72 wrote: »
    What?
    We've just all agreed that if the insurance runs out you have to send the tax back, so an uninsured car has to be sorned.
    That means leaving the insurance on it won't be an option.

    You didn't make it at all clear in your post what particular situation you were referring to. I took it to be the case where you have a car which is taxed and insured and due for an MOT, which is to be unused on the road whilst it undergoes work to ensure it passes the MOT. In which case the owner does not have to do anything, just leave the tax and insurance inforce while the work is carried out. Or if it is to take longer than 21 days either just declare it SORN but leave the insurance running, or declare SORN and cancel the insurance too, whichever is more economical.

    Mind you, after your hysterical performance in the mid-term premium discussion I have fully come to expect you say that white is black, so I await your inevitable rebuttal of this with interest.
    mikey72 wrote: »
    So what about the other piece of dvla legislation that says you can't declare sorn for less than 21 days?

    What about it?
  • raskazz
    raskazz Posts: 2,877 Forumite
    No title says

    You have to have insurance if car is off road


    What is the point of this, it does not and will not stop drivers who break the law with no insurance and no road tax

    Calm down

    The title is not wholly accurate. Once again, I suggest you actually read and comprehend the content of the thread before posting any more nonsense.
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    Thinking about that, it means you have 21 days grace for an un-insured vehicle.
    You can't declare sorn if you plan to re-tax in 21 days or less, so if you are selling, or working on an uninsured car, you have untill day 22 to get the tax disk in the post. Any time before that and you can always declare you were going to re tax it.
  • mikey72
    mikey72 Posts: 14,680 Forumite
    raskazz wrote: »
    You didn't make it at all clear in your post what particular situation you were referring to. I took it to be the case where you have a car which is taxed and insured and due for an MOT, which is to be unused on the road whilst it undergoes work to ensure it passes the MOT. In which case the owner does not have to do anything, just leave the tax and insurance inforce while the work is carried out.

    Mind you, after your hysterical performance in the mid-term premium discussion I have fully come to expect you say that white is black, so I await your inevitable rebuttal of this with interest.



    What about it?

    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
  • raskazz
    raskazz Posts: 2,877 Forumite
    mikey72 wrote: »
    Thinking about that, it means you have 21 days grace for an un-insured vehicle.
    You can't declare sorn if you plan to re-tax in 21 days or less, so if you are selling, or working on an uninsured car, you have untill day 22 to get the tax disk in the post. Any time before that and you can always declare you were going to re tax it.

    Well, yes, finally we are getting somewhere. Under this legislation there are no instant fines. The initial action is by a warning letter. Obviously the authorities only follow through on the warning if the situation persists.
  • Wig
    Wig Posts: 14,139 Forumite
    raskazz wrote: »
    you must surely acknowledge that there are benefits in this legislation not just costs?!

    No, I see no benefit at all in the legislation, all it does is add red tape to a situation where none was needed. And it makes it easier for the unsympathetic wheels of government to hand out yet more automatic penalties to innocent unsuspecting motorists.
  • raskazz
    raskazz Posts: 2,877 Forumite
    mikey72 wrote: »
    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    No, I insist - have the five you deserved in the other thread:

    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
  • NeverInDebt
    NeverInDebt Posts: 4,633 Forumite
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    edited 8 February 2011 at 10:23PM
    Exactly all it will do is penalise legitimate drivers, I am sure most of us want the real culprits who flout the law

    oh and /raskazz I got you on ignore :D

    Wig wrote: »
    No, I see no benefit at all in the legislation, all it does is add red tape to a situation where none was needed. And it makes it easier for the unsympathetic wheels of government to hand out yet more automatic penalties to innocent unsuspecting motorists.
  • raskazz
    raskazz Posts: 2,877 Forumite
    Wig wrote: »
    No, I see no benefit at all in the legislation, all it does is add red tape to a situation where none was needed. And it makes it easier for the unsympathetic wheels of government to hand out yet more automatic penalties to innocent unsuspecting motorists.

    You see no benefit at all? So you do not accept that there is a benefit to enabling the authorities to investigate potential uninsured driving proactively rather than reactively? I think you are being stubborn as I don't believe you are stupid enough to not admit that there are benefits involved in this in addition to costs.
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