Osborne looking for ideas

StevieJ

Hereward wrote: »

I can't comment if consultation is in the MBA toolbox, but it is good practice as it encourages people to feel that they have had the opportunity to influence the outcome; hence Microsoft's advertising campaign for Windows 7.

The trouble is it tends to be a facade to block objections later on with the retort 'you were consulted'

Graham_Devon

StevieJ wrote: »

The trouble is it tends to be a facade to block objections later on with the retort 'you were consulted'

When has this ever happened? In the scenario you are painting, that is.

blueboy43

Graham_Devon wrote: »

What's that go to do with anything?

I've not voted in a referendum, therefore I am not qualified to hold any opinion on whether I would like to see such things happen?

I'm actually bored of all this titt for tatt now by the way. I've never seen such rigid POV's in which absolutely anything can be seen as a way of attacking the opposition, and it don't matter how childish it gets, or whether there is reason or not.

You brought it up.

I was merely pointing out that referendum have only been used for major constitutional changes. Most people will have 1 or 2 votes on this per lifetime.

I think its a lousy idea - because it is. Just as Labour's "Big Conversation" (2003) was a sham.

How depressing that the Tories copy Labours worst ideas

StevieJ

Graham_Devon wrote: »

When has this ever happened? In the scenario you are painting, that is.

What about - Always

Graham_Devon

StevieJ wrote: »

What about - Always

I was trying to ask a proper question.

See a proper answer is too much to expect

blueboy43

Graham_Devon wrote: »

I was trying to ask a proper question.

See a proper answer is too much to expect

The analogy would be commissioning an 'independent' report into something.

Ooh lets see, the Lord Brown report on higher education.

This allows politicians to pass the buck once the decision is made.

'But we set up an independent report, they consulted widely and we are just implementing the recommendations'.

Too use another analogy in my experience the worst businesses are those who use endless consultants to set up focus groups and 'advise' on strategy.

The same people saying this is a great idea, would be having a fit of the vapours when say Lambeth council set up a 'public consultation' process on what cuts to carry out.

markharding557

The government say the opposition have no policies and no ideas and now it seems the government doesn't know what to do either.
In other words none of them have a clue.

Thrugelmir

markharding557 wrote: »

The government say the opposition have no policies and no ideas and now it seems the government doesn't know what to do either.

Majority of people accept that cuts need to be made. So easier to impose if there is concensus view on how to implement them. Than act like the current opposition who for political expediency just refuses to discuss the matter at all.

Paulgonnabedebtfree

markharding557 wrote: »

The government say the opposition have no policies and no ideas and now it seems the government doesn't know what to do either.
In other words none of them have a clue.

Great !!
Someone else has finally noticed.
And there I was thinking it was just me

the21c

Osbourne is clueless he doesn't know how the real people the working population of the UK live with mortgages and long commutes to work.What qualified him to become chancellor to beigin with the nasty, snivelling little toff w****r!