Osborne looking for ideas

Wheezy_2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

But I find it bizzare that in a democratic country, someone would take issue with the government asking for our input.

In a democratic country, parties present their polices and ideas, and people vote accordingly.
Not get elected and then ask for ideas.

Graham_Devon

Wheezy wrote: »

I have no issues nor take offence, my dear Graham.
But can you really not see the funny side?
1) Government pushes through a whole list of legislation without consultation nor asking us for input.
2) Opposition says it's the wrong policies at the wrong time
3) Government says opposition has no policies nor ideas
4) Government opens portal to ask for ideas

It's a gimmick, Graham...

Hmmm, maybe I'm looking at it from a different angle to you.

You seem to be suggesting the government have no ideas, and have therefore simply plumped to pleading with the nation to help them out as they don't have a clue themselves.

I see it as a government with ideas (obviously they have some, otherwise whats with all the whinging about their ideas?) but asking the populace for theirs, as they may be able to carry out some parts of ideas in addition to existing and future policy. What's more, they can gain a feeling for what they are doing.

Wouldn't take too much notice of the opposition. Heard today, they have found another way to be mischevious, and have now started simply attacking on the police numbers, although those in the police say they will cope. Found it amusing that the person discussing this item on the radio stated "not that we have any idea what labour would actually do given the situation".

Wheezy wrote: »

In a democratic country, parties present their polices and ideas, and people vote accordingly.
Not get elected and then ask for ideas.

What, so we never get the chance of referendums? Never get the chance of having a say? That is until voting time?

May aswell simply do away with yougov, question time etc etc etc too.

Can't say that was my idea of democracy.

Wheezy_2

Graham_Devon wrote: »

What, so we never get the chance of referendums? Never get the chance of having a say? That is until voting time?

Sure, a referendum might be useful with major constitutional issues like EU membership for example. But do we really want a government who comes to the people for ideas and input on a regular base?

Graham_Devon wrote: »

May aswell simply do away with yougov, question time etc etc etc too.

That's different. Yougov polls and question time is debate. It's always good to have a debate between the government and the citizens.

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Can't say that was my idea of democracy.

Don't know. It worked okay until now. Parties presented their policies, citizens voted for it (or not), and parties got booted out (or not) after their term.

blueboy43

Graham_Devon wrote: »

What, so we never get the chance of referendums? Never get the chance of having a say? That is until voting time?

May aswell simply do away with yougov, question time etc etc etc too.

Graham, I'm fairly certain you have never voted in a referendum.

lemonjelly

Wheezy wrote: »

It's a gimmick, Graham...

This is the most accurate comment I've read on this thread.

It is a complete mockery. Is he going to give me a cut of his salary for doing his job for him?

Despite making a significant number of u-turns already, the government are insistent that they will steadfastly maintain their current course. So what are they going to change?

Opinion polls & the conservatives own research has shown that osborne is unpopular, that his nasally voice comes across to people as whiney, & the masses don't relate to him. That is why he was hidden away during the election campaign, & cameron made economic policy statements, not him.

It is an attemp for georgie boy to appear nice & approachable.

Ugh.

StevieJ

Big companies play this one as well (or rather their consultants), to show inclusiveness, I guess. I think it must be in the MBA tool box.:)

Hereward

StevieJ wrote: »

Big companies play this one as well (or rather their consultants), to show inclusiveness, I guess. I think it must be in the MBA tool box.:)

I can't comment if consultation is in the MBA toolbox, but it is good practice as it encourages people to feel that they have had the opportunity to influence the outcome; hence Microsoft's advertising campaign for Windows 7.

1984ReturnsForReal_2

Hereward wrote: »

I can't comment if consultation is in the MBA toolbox, but it is good practice as it encourages people to feel that they have had the opportunity to influence the outcome; hence Microsoft's advertising campaign for Windows 7.

Pat pat, stroke stroke.

Ignore

Graham_Devon

blueboy43 wrote: »

Graham, I'm fairly certain you have never voted in a referendum.

What's that go to do with anything?

I've not voted in a referendum, therefore I am not qualified to hold any opinion on whether I would like to see such things happen?

I'm actually bored of all this titt for tatt now by the way. I've never seen such rigid POV's in which absolutely anything can be seen as a way of attacking the opposition, and it don't matter how childish it gets, or whether there is reason or not.

System

Ah, nothing beats political fanboyism.

Or politics, as they call it.