Stop The Rip-Off - Demand A Mobile Communications Charter

halibut2209

Jeff_Bridges_hair wrote: »

So why post on an open forum about what you want and want others to do?

I have given you options. You dont like that because you feel that someone somewhere owes you..

Sorry to pi55 on your bonfire..

Your wrong

"you're" wrong

Jeff_Bridges_hair

halibut2209 wrote: »

"you're" wrong

At that time in the morning i was

wantmemoney

Jeff_Bridges_hair wrote:

So why post on an open forum about what you want and want others to do?

I have given you options. You dont like that because you feel that someone somewhere owes you..

Sorry to pi55 on your bonfire..

Your wrong

nonsensical inaccurate ranting that doesn't remotely relate to anything I posted

tomwakefield wrote:

So, this capping thing. You've lost me somewhat.

You want to limit the amount a mobile phone supplier can take from you in a month, yet you don't want to be stuck in the scenario where you might be without a phone (as you would be with PAYG). In effect you want to be able to use the phone as much as you like and the mobile phone company can only take the agreed amount.

Am I correct?

no not exactly...I don't recall the original poster actually saying that...he did actually refer to the problem of being able to make 'emergency' calls once a pre-agreed spend 'limit' had been reached.

The problem as I understood it.

Firstly the problem relates to contract phones and how they are billed from the customers bank account.
Yes individuals can avoid the problem by not having a contract phone but avoiding the problem is not the same fixing the problem. Also Pay as You Go phones are not ideally suitable for everybody.

The phone companies 'load' the phone with unlimited credit.

This credit can be used to pay the phone companies for calls made and also used to pay 'third party' Retailers for goods and services.

In effect the phone companies have turned the phone into a kind of 'credit/debit card' but with none of the Regulations and consumer protection Laws that real debit/credit cards are subject to.

Yes credit/debit card customers are responsible for safe guarding the actual physical card but credit card companies and banks are held responsible for the security of the actual financial account.

Yes phone customers are responsible for safe guarding the actual physical phone but.....
at present the Phone Companies/Banks accept absolutely no responsibility for any unauthorised (accidental or criminal) billing to and debiting from the account.

why is this?

Freddie_Snowbits

AlexChambers wrote: »

Hi Freddie,

Keep it up!

I see you speak from experience about a problem with your credit card being cloned and availed yourself of the protection and security system given to credit cards to protect the bank's money (not yours, since they lend it to you).

The site was Best Western that was infected and a loit of cloned cards came from there. The transaction did not even get close to appearing on my statement. That is what the system is for. Your questions are on restricting the use of a trinket. There is an answer to this that has been available for a number of years. it is called PAY AS YOU GO.

If you chose a Trinket that allows a free for all and do not treat as a cash cow, I am afraid, you will get rather short answers from Freddie, we have had these trinkets stolen, misused all over this parish.

As for my trinket, the iPad requires my authorisation (password) to get a down load, the phone is never more than one arms reach away, My amazonmaniatescomhmitunes accoutn is alwys logged out of to stop prying eyes from ordering. Not a hard task to do.

One beggers while you are on the subject, your opinion on the following and the advise you would give.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1354490/Boy-11-racks-1-000-mothers-debit-card-playing-XBox-online.html

I for one, would nmever give a money grabbing toy to a person who has no sense of money, though I do log out and have pins to protect purchases.