Cyclists fighting back against oafish drivers

Freddie_Snowbits

Azari wrote: »

!!!!!!!

It's obviously people such as yourself with no road sense whatsoever that make this sort of technology so vital.

At no point did the white van ever pass the cyclist.

What sort of c0ck-a-mammy view of driving do you have that says that if you start to pass another vehicle at a speed that will not allow you to pass it safely you can then side swipe it?

Thank the lord that the police, CPS and court system have a better understanding of the rules of the road than you.

I'd recommend that you get some extra driving lessons as a matter of urgency as it's clear that your level of road sense is virtually nil.

The cyclist does not have a layer of metal to protect them from other road users. Yes the van driver turning left was in an agressive position, but the first law of combat comes into play at this point. Question. Is the cyclist going to come off worse? Answer Yes. Then Stand back and wait until it is safer to procede. That idiot thinks the camera will protect him. It will only serve to give the police evidence of wrong doing, when they scoop him off the road, DEAD.

As for road sense, read the whole of my post not just the point I said and restate. The Cyclist attempted to under cut the van. You would also note the driver was done for a Public Order Offence first, though Driving without due care and attention could be considered an add on.

AS for my road sense, I treat all other road users with respect. That is why I have had a licence for 32 years, NO POINTS EVER.

passatrider

I may be shot down here but as a driver and a cyclist I find that there are good and bad people on both modes of transport.

We should be looking at the cause here rather than the effect. The cause is aggression generally because of the pace of life we now lead and the general lack of respect for other people. Untill we address these core issues then the problems will only get worse.

Incidentally, in my view the most aggressive cyclists I come across are the Lycra clad brigade - no respect for the road or other people around them.

Sorry if I generalise here but it's the truth.

Freddie_Snowbits

Azari wrote: »

Freddies post was so brainless that it required a very assertive response.

I note your resposne requires attention.

rustyboy21

Azari

FYO copied from the highway code

Overtaking and being overtaken

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Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.


And as a law abiding cyclist do you follow the following rules as per highway code?


http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069837

Freddie_Snowbits

passatrider wrote: »

The cause is aggression generally because of the pace of life we now lead and the general lack of respect for other people.

:T:T:T:T:T:T

That is probably why boxes are matched by weight! In this fight, the van has a protective layer of metal. The cyclist has only a video camera! Unfortunately, as I have stated above, the camera will not save the squashed hedgehog.

I reiterate the first law of combat. If you are not in a position to win, back out gracefully.

The use of the camera on the other hand, would lead to the same response I give the parents at my Scouting outlet. You are free to join in and help. Should you wish to spy and use a camera, get someone else to do it. Seems today we are quick to go and privately film or record people to hide our own misfortunes. We had an isnatnce of this last week. Toady I await the truth with my copy of Private Eye.

rustyboy21

By The way you are incredibly rude in your responses to other people, havent you been brought to task yet?

custardy

rustyboy21 wrote: »

Azari

FYO copied from the highway code

Overtaking and being overtaken

168

Being overtaken. If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, slowing down if necessary to let the vehicle pass. Never obstruct drivers who wish to pass. Speeding up or driving unpredictably while someone is overtaking you is dangerous. Drop back to maintain a two-second gap if someone overtakes and pulls into the gap in front of you.


And as a law abiding cyclist do you follow the following rules as per highway code?


http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069837

did the van follow this then?

163

Overtake only when it is safe and legal to do so. You should
not get too close to the vehicle you intend to overtake
use your mirrors, signal when it is safe to do so, take a quick sideways glance if necessary into the blind spot area and then start to move out
not assume that you can simply follow a vehicle ahead which is overtaking; there may only be enough room for one vehicle
move quickly past the vehicle you are overtaking, once you have started to overtake. Allow plenty of room. Move back to the left as soon as you can but do not cut in

rustyboy21

Freddie_Snowbits wrote: »

:T:T:T:T:T:T


The use of the camera on the other hand, would lead to the same response I give the parents at my Scouting outlet. You are free to join in and help. Should you wish to spy and use a camera, get someone else to do it. Seems today we are quick to go and privately film or record people to hide our own misfortunes. We had an isnatnce of this last week. Toady I await the truth with my copy of Private Eye.

I don't think I have signed a release form for the data protection act, to allow a private citizen to film me on the day to day duties I do.

Azari

Freddie_Snowbits wrote: »

Yes the van driver turning left was in an agressive position, but the first law of combat comes into play at this point.

What hope is there for anyone who is so clueless about road usage that he thinks it appropriate to invoke a law of combat

That idiot thinks the camera will protect him.

Hmm, someone else who is incapable of interpreting perfectly clear evidence.

The van had no reason whatsoever to move to the left. It was about to pass a parked car so, if anything, it should have been moving to the right.

The Cyclist attempted to under cut the van.

In the real world you have to be behind someone to attempt to 'under cut' them. The cyclist was never behind the van.

You would also note the driver was done for a Public Order Offence first, though Driving without due care and attention could be considered an add on.

:rotfl: Talk about grabbing at straws.

That would have been down to the order in which the indictments were listed. He got five points on his licence!

AS for my road sense, I treat all other road users with respect. That is why I have had a licence for 32 years, NO POINTS EVER.

Quite amazing given your, shall we say, 'unusual' interpretation of traffic law and your inability to properly understand the clip shown.

OTOH there are people who drink and drive for decades and get away with it so I suppose it's not too surprising.

Azari

rustyboy21 wrote: »

I don't think I have signed a release form for the data protection act, to allow a private citizen to film me on the day to day duties I do.

There is no requirement to get such a release if you are in a public place.

Sorry, you'll have to think up something else.