Cyclists fighting back against oafish drivers

esuhl

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

But if a black person was involved in an incident in which a crime was committed, I wouldn't automatically assume that he/she was guilty and say that they should be arrested.
This is exactly what you stated with regards to a car driver who hit a cyclist.

If you know that this hypothetical person committed a crime because the scenario you are given explicitly states that... you're saying that you wouldn't know that they had committed a crime? That simply doesn't make sense.

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

I agree with your point. You may not represent all cyclists, but...

Well, thanks for changing your mind.

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

The driver may have had a fraction of a second to react, and their choice may have been to definitely hit a child on a bike, or to swerve and possibly hit a pedestrian or other vehicle.

The fact is that the driver chose to hit a pedestrian or another car. Swerving into and colliding with a pedestrian is, at best, careless.

shaun_from_Africa

The fact is that the driver chose to hit a pedestrian or another car.

Or you could say (as I did), that they chose not to definitely hit a child on a bike. I doubt if anyone would deliberately choose to hit a pedestrian (as you stated).

If you know that this hypothetical person committed a crime because the scenario you are given explicitly states that... you're saying that you wouldn't know that they had committed a crime? That simply doesn't make sense.

Care to point where I "explicitly stated" this?

I said that they were "involved in an incident in which a crime was committed" They may have been a witness or a victim.

You have your point of view which is fair enough, but at least have the courtesy not to attempt to put words into other peoples mouths to try and make your point.

esuhl

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

Care to point where I "explicitly stated" this?

You're getting confused - that was what I explicitly stated:

esuhl wrote: »

If a black person commits a street robbery, does that give all black people a bad name for being associated with violent crime?

shaun_from_Africa wrote: »

I wouldn't automatically assume that he/she was guilty and say that they should be arrested.

So even though the facts of the scenario are that the person committed the robbery, you are somehow uncertain as to whether they committed the robbery?

geri1965_2

Mrs_Arcanum wrote: »

One of the biggest dangers to cyclists is not moving vehicles but ones parked at the side of the road. Taxi drivers parked in a rank who blindly open the drivers door without checking are a real menace. :mad:

I usually pass them very wide, so if they open the door it's not a problem. Obviously it's not always possible to do that, depending on other traffic, so I look out for those that have people in and go very slowly so I have a chance to stop.

I always expect the worst so I can try and react accordingly.

custardy

geri1965 wrote: »

I usually pass them very wide, so if they open the door it's not a problem. Obviously it's not always possible to do that, depending on other traffic, so I look out for those that have people in and go very slowly so I have a chance to stop.

I always expect the worst so I can try and react accordingly.

hold on.you mean you enter the domain of the car! and dont live in the gutter where you belong?
how dare you

Azari

geri1965 wrote: »

I usually pass them very wide, so if they open the door it's not a problem. Obviously it's not always possible to do that, depending on other traffic, so I look out for those that have people in and go very slowly so I have a chance to stop.

I always expect the worst so I can try and react accordingly.

The metre at the extreme left of the road is not known as 'the death zone' for nothing!