Landlord has given us 2 months notice to leave

mlz1413

neas wrote: »

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It isnt their fault your personal situations changed or you had a couple of children, which is a fine choice but unforunately your situation is costing them time and money now.

No it is not costing the LL time or money now!!

The OP came on and asked a reasonable question, ie what can they do? One option is to sit tight as the LL does not appear to have given the correct notice.
This does not make it the OP's fault nor does it mean the OP has caused the problem, that is the LL's doing IF they incorrectly issued the notice.

OP please take the letter to the council housing office or CAB and explain your situation, if the letter is not correct/legal then the council will not be able to bump you higher up the social housing list.

neas

Every landlord i dealt with has been flexible on the notice i give them... often giving them 1 month notice halfway through my rental period.... this is fair to me . So whats been suggested is that a loophole be found to extend the current 1 month 29 day notice as

1. it didnt fall on a rental day
2. it wasn't a formal notice.

As i have been banging on about and you guys are pretty immune to it seems.. legally you are right. But morally the landlords given them almost the right notice as they had agreed, whats been suggested is ways to make the notice last as long as possible.

If i was tenant i'd try not to !!!! off my next door neighbour for 3-4 months. What goes aroudn comes around after all.

voytovdwiof

mlz1413 wrote: »

No it is not costing the LL time or money now!!

The OP came on and asked a reasonable question, ie what can they do? One option is to sit tight as the LL does not appear to have given the correct notice.
This does not make it the OP's fault nor does it mean the OP has caused the problem, that is the LL's doing IF they incorrectly issued the notice.

OP please take the letter to the council housing office or CAB and explain your situation, if the letter is not correct/legal then the council will not be able to bump you higher up the social housing list.

The LL made the arrangement based on pending house selling, if the tenant refuses to move out at the time of completion (when the house is sold) and then the landlord can't sell, that is a huge amount of money lost (solicitor fees etc.). If I read correctly they got a discounted rate because of the potential for the house to be sold on. "This does not make it the OP's fault nor does it mean the OP has caused the problem" if they were aware of the former, yes it does.

tamarto

kier333 wrote: »

I for one would take full advantage of the situation and head down to the council, letter in hand and present yourself there and ask what they will do come move out date? I think you will be pleasantly surprised that they have to re home you.

They will tell her to stay put until the LL has been to court and they have a date to go by the court, when that date arrives they will find them someplace else. If the move out on the date of the s21 tyhe council will percieve them to have made themselves intentionally homeless.

mlz1413

voytovdwiof wrote: »

The LL made the arrangement based on pending house selling, if the tenant refuses to move out at the time of completion (when the house is sold) and then the landlord can't sell, that is a huge amount of money lost (solicitor fees etc.). If I read correctly they got a discounted rate because of the potential for the house to be sold on. "This does not make it the OP's fault nor does it mean the OP has caused the problem" if they were aware of the former, yes it does.

IF the OP doesn't move out - ie she still has 2 months to get sorted and wanted advise.

And if I read correctly the OP said: We actually got quite a good deal with this house as it is only £575 per month for 3 bedrooms (although no central heating and a ridiculously small kitchen so thats probably why!)
A small kitchen and no central heating is nothing to do with the house being for sale.

duchy

I bought a house that was previously occupied by tenents.
The owners dealt with the legalities of giving the tenents notice correctly-and they moved out....THEN the LL put the house on the market after redecorating. We completed the sale within 27 days of viewing as everything was straightforward.

Landlords who sell houses before dealing with the legalities of tenents should know the law and issue correct notices-if they don't and the sale is delayed or lost -well that's what happens when you want that extra couple of month's rent rather than do things properly. It's a risk you take when you do business that way.

I was a cash buyer and I wouldn't have considered offering on a house with tenents in situ

In this case it appears the LL has no mortgage so their problems are caused simply by greed.To not even get the notice to quit issued by a solictor but to send a hand written and apparently non compliant letter seems to confirm this. You'd think the solicitor handling the house sale would have advised them better (or maybe they did and weren't listened to )

voytovdwiof

mlz1413 wrote: »

IF the OP doesn't move out - ie she still has 2 months to get sorted and wanted advise.

And if I read correctly the OP said: We actually got quite a good deal with this house as it is only £575 per month for 3 bedrooms (although no central heating and a ridiculously small kitchen so thats probably why!)
A small kitchen and no central heating is nothing to do with the house being for sale.

IF you read further down, you'd also see they elaborated:

Gandalfthegrey wrote: »

but they didnt really care when they sold the house knowing our baby is due soon and we had christmas to worry if it was about to be sold.

Gandalfthegrey wrote: »

The reason rent is low is because they dont have a mortgage to pay on this house and there is no central heating.

Gandalfthegrey wrote: »

(they said in the past they were in no rush to sell it, besides they were actually just given this house by the old man who used to live here who unfortunately died and had no family) but anyway im waffaling on now! so I suppose I shouldnt feel guilty towards them if they couldnt give a crp about our situation.

Some conflicting statements but could be typos making things the wrong way. They knew why the rent was cheap though.

They're living way beyond their means (a 3 bed house that they can only afford because of lazy LLs (probably not legally registered) and shoddy maintenance) and they knew this from the start. As much as I feel for the OPs situation it's not a shock or surprise. I'm just disturbed to see the ease at which people can suggest screwing over the LL. It's not a pretty situation for anyone, but ultimately the responsibility falls on the OP and their last resort should be screwing over the LL, not the first as many suggest.

mlz1413

Gandalfthegrey wrote: »

..The new buyers are fully aware there is a young family living here and saw I was heavily pregnany as all viewings were done whilst I was home.
The Landlords know full well of our situation regarding redundancy and me being pregnany, but they decided to put the house on the market.
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Please stop making judgements about my morals, I came on here for advice.
Thank you to those who have helped!

The OP did not move in knowing it was for sale and it appears the sale process has been within the last 9 months, it not within the last 3 months to be heavily pregnant.

serious_saver

Irrespective of what is morally wrong or right you can't escape the fact that you will have to move soon. Take the letter to the CAB or your council as suggested by others. They will either tell you that the letter is illegal OR give you advice on what you can do to get yourself higher up the priority list for social housing. As someone who is soon to be homeless you should be able to get some help. Some Local Authorities can also offer you help towards organising your deposit and agency fees.

It's worth acting as soon as you can. Get in contact with local letting agents and explain what you are looking for. Where I live affordable rentals get snapped up very quickly and often don't make it as far as being advertised so get yourself on the mailing lists and, if necessary, phone them up every week to find out if they've taken on any new properties.

voytovdwiof

mlz1413 wrote: »

The OP did not move in knowing it was for sale and it appears the sale process has been within the last 9 months, it not within the last 3 months to be heavily pregnant.

Maybe I'm over-estimating the average person then, but if my partner got pregnant the first thing I would do is look for permanent housing, or at least long term rental. Everything about the way they describe this situation makes it seem less than optimal and not at all stable, although I guess things happen and time goes by... I guess hindsight is everything.