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New strict ESA descriptors.
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johnsmi
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Hi all,,
I have just been browsing the benefitsandwork site and they say that this is definitely the descriptors for the ESA.
http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/med2/index.php
going to be very difficult to pass it compared to passing the ib test.
John
I have just been browsing the benefitsandwork site and they say that this is definitely the descriptors for the ESA.
http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/med2/index.php
going to be very difficult to pass it compared to passing the ib test.
John
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At least they have now made allowances for people with cancer! Something which is long overdue IMHO!0
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some things have changed but to be fair many havent0
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I've read of so many horrible things regarding this test, people with cancer should definitely get the support they need though.0
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I've never read the ESA descriptors before. My son is disabled and will never live independently, but reading this was interesting. He would score around 150 points, so would definitely qualify for ESA when he is old enough, I think. Does anybody know the score needed to receive ESA? I know it isn't relevant to my son for a few years, but I'd be interested to know.0
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Self scoring is a total, complete and utter waste of time Im afraid.[greenhighlight]but it matters when the most senior politician in the land is happy to use language and examples that are simply not true.
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The impact of this is to stigmatise people on benefits,
and we should be deeply worried about that[/redtitle](house of lords debate, talking about Cameron)0 -
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Invalidation wrote: »Why ?,
because anyone self scoring is going to be biased and unable to score honestly.0 -
kingfisherblue wrote: »I've never read the ESA descriptors before. My son is disabled and will never live independently, but reading this was interesting. He would score around 150 points, so would definitely qualify for ESA when he is old enough, I think. Does anybody know the score needed to receive ESA? I know it isn't relevant to my son for a few years, but I'd be interested to know.
You need 15 points to be able to get ESA0 -
Unfortunately Atos employees use a pc with a check list which does not always fairly take account of symptoms. Also it has been known that some of the ATOS employees have been known to economical with the truth.
I don't want to worry you but be prepared to appeal as the government have already set figures for the pass rate which implies that many genuinely ill people get turned down or put in the wrong group for ESA.0 -
Self scoring is a total, complete and utter waste of time Im afraid.
Although I can understand what you are saying, I can score fairly and honestly. I don't think my son will ever be able to work. He has very poor speech (even I don't understand him half the time), severe health problems, moderate learning difficulty, is doubly incontinent, cannot walk more than a few metres and cannot use a wheelchair independently, has severe feeding difficulties, comes down the stairs on his bum, cannot use a phone or mobile, does not understand money (1p is equivilent to £10), can read but not very well, isn't strong enough to do a physical job (hypermobile joints, chest and breathing problems). His disabilities are lifelong and his consultants (two different hospitals) are of the opinion that he will get worse, not better, as he grows up. There has already been evidence of this as he has developed a further medical condition in the last year alone, as well as some of his other conditions worsening.
After my son finishes school, he is likely to need daycare services. Even the ATOS officials are unlikely to find him fit for work. I would love to be proven wrong, but I am realistic.
RazWaz, thank you for the information. I thought that the score needed would be quite a bit higher.0
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